of flesh and fantasy poll and discussion.

[lantzblades]

torturing a prisoner or a criminal for example is ok, random servants is not.

[Cherry Lover]

torturing a prisoner or a criminal for example is ok, random servants is not.

Ah, OK, I see.

Well, who would be likely to be a prisoner? What sort of "prisoners" are you referring to here? Prisoners of war, or actual criminals?

[lantzblades]

I imagine criminals of a high order, see assassins etcetera.

[Cherry Lover]

I imagine criminals of a high order, see assassins etcetera.

Ah, OK.

Well, who would be liable to be a criminal, then (of the female characters in particular)...?

[lantzblades]

not particularly sure at the moment, rider maybe.

[Cherry Lover]

not particularly sure at the moment, rider maybe.

Well, for this purpose Rider would be ideal, since I find her hot....

Sakura would also be good, but turning her into a criminal isn't very easy in general, and I also am not sure I would like what comes after the torture (which is likely to be a very painful death, unless someone steps in...).

[lantzblades]

i think you're being too historical

[Cherry Lover]

i think you're being too historical

Not really. In general, if you consider a criminal to be bad enough to deserve torture, you're probably not going to just then let them go....

[lantzblades]

what i mean is think fantasy elements if you want to stop them from dying.

[Cherry Lover]

what i mean is think fantasy elements if you want to stop them from dying.

I don't get what you mean by that.

The idea I came up with so far was for Rider to be framed by Shinji or Zouken. She'd be tortured, but before she was executed her innocence would be revealed. Sakura would be made to the blame, and Rider would be given the right to torture her in retribution. She would initially torture her harshly, but would come to realise that Sakura was innocent, and would ask Nero to allow her to take Sakura as a slave (freeing her from Zouken), treating her with kindness (although she'd still be interested in kinky sex).

[lantzblades]

It doesn't have to match history

[Cherry Lover]

It doesn't have to match history

Well, no, sure, but seriously torturing someone as a punishment is not usually followed by letting them go....

What did you think of my suggestion, anyway?

[lantzblades]

Could imprison them

[Cherry Lover]

Could imprison them

Well, yes, true, but being imprisoned is not really much of a better fate from a story viewpoint than being executed is. It still has the effect of taking you out of the story. I guess being enslaved is an option, though, although who she'd be a slave to is another matter.

Also, what did you think of my suggestion? I like it because it allows me to have two seperate torture scenes....

Also, who would be the torturer if Rider is the victim?

[lantzblades]

It works not fond of how complex it gets but could be worse