of flesh and fantasy poll and discussion.

[Cherry Lover]

No guy I can think of

Ah, OK....

Well, like I said, a guy would be preferable, but I'm also struggling to think of a guy who would be likely to be Nero's torturer. Shinji might, I guess, but he's already got a role in this set-up. Well, unless we add some desire on his part to have fun with Rider to the reasoning for framing her....

[lantzblades]

Eww, no

[Cherry Lover]

Eww, no

OK, fair enough.

What about Caster, then? Her magic would make things interesting....

Also, does this world have things like electricity, or does it have Roman-era tech (and, thus, torture devices)?

[lantzblades]

Hadn't decided and caster works fine

[Cherry Lover]

Hadn't decided

Ah, OK.

Well, I would rather modern tech, it gives more options....

and caster works fine

She might be a good choice, then. Like I said, I'd rather a guy (because a guy can more easily gain pleasure from penetrating her), but I don't think either of us can think of a viable option.

[lantzblades]

Split the difference and fo with stylized modern technology

[Cherry Lover]

Split the difference and fo with stylized modern technology

What do you mean by "stylised modern technology"?

[lantzblades]

Technology meant to be patterned after old stuff, light street lights looking like torches and so on

[Cherry Lover]

Technology meant to be patterned after old stuff, light street lights looking like torches and so on

Ah, OK.

Yeah, that works. The stuff I'm mainly thinking of is stuff like tasers and electric shock batons/cattle prods for use in torture, anyway....

[lantzblades]

well they could have that stuff i guess.

[Cherry Lover]

well they could have that stuff i guess.

Well, yeah, it figures.

Plus, Caster would use her magic to ensure the prisoner suffers as much as possible. Additionally, because Caster and Rider are sadists, they would gain sexual pleasure from torture (which is why Caster took the job, mainly), and would force the prisoner to perform degrading sex acts.

In Sakura's case, I had the idea that she'd be brought to the dungeon fully clothed, and that Rider would then force her to perform a strip-tease whilst taunting her about all the horrible things she was going to do to her, and also telling Sakura how horribly she herself had suffered as a result of Sakura's frame-up.

I also thought that Rider might taunt Sakura about how, instead of killing her, she was going to keep her as a sex slave once she was bored of torturing her, and how much she likes the thought of having a girl who she can do anything she likes to, but that she wouldn't usually be willing to treat a person in that way.

I do wonder how it should end, with regards to Sakura and particularly her relationship with Rider. I think she would forgive Rider for what she did, because Sakura had admitted betraying her and getting her tortured, but I don't think Rider would forgive herself, particularly once she knew that Sakura was the one who had got her freed in the first place. I don't think we can really just leave it there, but I'm not sure where to take it.

I also wonder how Rider would get the full details out of Sakura. The initial confession that she wasn't responsible would come as the result of heavy torture, but once she's got that she'll be a lot more reluctant to hurt Sakura. At the same time, though, she would know Sakura was covering up for someone (probably Shinji or Zouken) and would want the full truth from her, not to mention that she needs something more than someone saying "it wasn't me" to convince Nero to even investigate it. So, it's possible that, to put pressure on Sakura, she'd be forced to threaten her with more torture (which Sakura would definitely not want), or just point out that, if she doesn't tell the full truth, Nero will probably order her torture to be continued.

[lantzblades]

would then force her to perform a strip-tease

seriously out of character for the job.

because Sakura had admitted betraying her

that contradicts previous statements.

[Cherry Lover]

would then force her to perform a strip-tease

seriously out of character for the job.

I'm talking about Rider here, not Caster. Rider isn't employed by Nero as a torturer, she is torturing Sakura to punish her for framing Rider. And, in any case, why is it "out of character"? Humiliating the victim by stripping them or forcing them to strip is pretty much standard procedure for torturers, even aside from the fact that I want this to actually be erotic.

because Sakura had admitted betraying her

that contradicts previous statements.

No, it doesn't. I said she'd admitted to it, not that she had actually done it....

[lantzblades]

the tease part.

and ah, i see, my mistake

[Cherry Lover]

the tease part.

It's not strictly part of the job, no, but it doesn't conflict with doing the job either, particularly since it's humiliating for the victim (more so than just being made to strip). Plus, like I said, Rider isn't Nero's employee, Nero has merely given her permission to implement Sakura's punishment, in whatever way she desires.

and ah, i see, my mistake

Yeah, exactly. The point is not that she's guilty, but that she admitted it and, thus, cannot really blame Rider for assuming it to be the truth.