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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2014, 07:42:49 AM »
Not if I post the character I am thinking of posting.

I'll be the good guy, you can all be bad guys.

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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2014, 07:51:06 AM »
Not if I post the character I am thinking of posting.

I'll be the good guy, you can all be bad guys.

Who is it?




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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2014, 07:55:02 AM »
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I now question if you had a childhood, do you even Majora's Mask?

If you really haven't figured it out yet.
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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2014, 09:25:24 AM »
In advance, I call dibs on Mordred.

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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2014, 01:31:03 PM »
Dibs? I mean I know what it means but given the rules is that really necessary?

Also, just a heads up, if you guys want to fight my characters or what not, PM me so we can work it out, it worked the last three times so we can set it up that way guys.

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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2014, 02:10:21 PM »
Sakura is too soft to win a Grail War. Zouken needed someone who would be capable and willing to defeat the other masters. He could not afford to let a variable loose when all of the earth was at stake. He either destroyed the Grail, or everything dies. Failure was not an option.

No, she's not. Rin and Shirou managed just fine.

If all you want to do is win for yourself then you might need to be tough, but if you want to destroy the Grail then the best option is to ally with like-minded people, such as Rin and Shirou. Killing them was not remotely sensible or necessary.

Well duh Knick, although last I checked your zoulen mind controlled a person to the point of near death. Saber, Shirou and kiritsugu haven't and are therefore still good guys while your zouken is still a monster, less than canon but still...

Kiritsugu and Saber have killed scores of people. By your definitions, they are beyond inhuman.

Kiritsugu kind-of is. Saber killed people in battle who would happily have killed her and were attacking her country, so it's a little different.

Like 5 people for the entirety of the world.

Like god knows how many people for a war.

Your scales are off a bit man.

Doesn't matter, he mind-controlled a young child, used her as a tool and treated her like crap. That is fundamentally wrong, no matter how you view it.

In advance, I call dibs on Mordred.

More than one person can play a character, you know....


Also, Elf, how do we rate children? Do we just treat them as basically weak humans?

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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2014, 02:24:51 PM »
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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2014, 02:42:58 PM »
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If all you want to do is win for yourself then you might need to be tough, but if you want to destroy the Grail then the best option is to ally with like-minded people, such as Rin and Shirou. Killing them was not remotely sensible or necessary.

Trust the other masters. You do understand that Zouken is still a magus right? He's not going to take chances with other people if he can just eliminate them and get the advantages they have. Taking Saber from Shirou is a good example of this. This is a guy who isn't willing to take chances. The most dangerous thing to a plan is someone you cannot manipulate or control completely. Zouken was going to make sure the chance of failure was 0% by any means necessary. He fucked over 5 people and saved the world. Far from the worst solution.

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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2014, 02:48:19 PM »
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If all you want to do is win for yourself then you might need to be tough, but if you want to destroy the Grail then the best option is to ally with like-minded people, such as Rin and Shirou. Killing them was not remotely sensible or necessary.

Trust the other masters. You do understand that Zouken is still a magus right? He's not going to take chances with other people if he can just eliminate them and get the advantages they have. Taking Saber from Shirou is a good example of this. This is a guy who isn't willing to take chances. The most dangerous thing to a plan is someone you cannot manipulate or control completely. Zouken was going to make sure the chance of failure was 0% by any means necessary. He fucked over 5 people and saved the world. Far from the worst solution.

Unless you happen to be one of those five people. Then it's a really shitty situation....

He still sounds pretty monstrous. Especially the whole "if she disobeys she loses her free will" thing. What purpose does he have for that that is not entirely selfish? She can't fight in that state anyway.
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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2014, 02:50:37 PM »
Canon Zouken did things for the evulz because of Alzheimer's and soul rot. I mean, he forgot the love of his life and could only remember "win Grail War".
And became a pitiful worm-man; not even a wyrm-man, which could've been interesting, but a worm man.
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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2014, 02:57:18 PM »
Canon Zouken did things for the evulz because of Alzheimer's and soul rot. I mean, he forgot the love of his life and could only remember "win Grail War".
And became a pitiful worm-man; not even a wyrm-man, which could've been interesting, but a worm man.

Considering how ridiculous dragonkin are, Zouken would probably have stomped on everyone.

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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2014, 03:40:49 PM »
I should remind people: hey, HEY, HEY LISTEN, CHARISMA ISN'T A STAT ANYMORE

Also, again, specify parameter scale. *stares at Milbunk*
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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2014, 03:45:45 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up, YOLF!
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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2014, 03:50:05 PM »
Yelling to listen and then telling us things we already know...

Just like the good old days, now on to the Water Temple!

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Re: Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2014, 04:46:07 PM »
Also, Elf, how do we rate children? Do we just treat them as basically weak humans?

Pretty much this.  I mean, they're kids.

Also, Milbunk,  please fix your sheet.  There's nothing about which scale you're using and Charisma isn't a stat anymore.  Did you seriously just copy and paste your old stats?
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