Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion

[Cherry Lover]

A young boy needs a male role model man. And honestly Shirou is not the best one cause Shirou has issues. And if we can't agree on that you probably don't really know Shirou's character all that well.

Him having female role models does not really help him when he is a, you know, guy and should probably learn things about being a guy from another guy.

I don't get what you mean, honestly. I don't see how Shirou can't fill that role.

[Knick]

Cause Shirou is not right in the head? Also he is his dad, boys like their dad and all but they are still parents before they are friends. And a role model, or just a 'guy friend' would be interesting for Kiyoshi and how he would act on it.

But anyway that was not the point. What I am saying is that Shirou is the least necessary for an interesting dynamic and will also let you get an interesting RP experience out Kiyoshi's interactions with others. Not even approaching how Sakura and Aoi would approach the situation.

You only have 4 slots, so you need to make a call. And honestly, Shirou is the one that brings the less amount of stuff to the RP while causing interesting things for your other choices of characters with his absence.

Also, you do not need to change the sheets much from what you have already written, just alter the stats a little and make sure they have actual weaknesses, it should not take that long since you already have Kiyoshi and Rider done, and Sakura and Shirou as well from 1.0. Not sure about Aoi but didn't you make a sheet for her then to?

Sheets should not take you as long as you make them out to be.

[SINIB]

I don't think Aoi even has a sheet.

[Knick]

Know what I just realised?

If Rebeca does Deep Reading on Shirou she would probably see UBWs.

[Kat]

Would she detect the metaphorical Beast roiling inside a vampire?

[Knick]

Depends on how deep she goes.

She can, but she might just not do it for long enough to get that deep into their subconsciousness.

Also she might not come out unscathed from it.

[Umbra of Chaos]

So if the character development comes to pass would it be possible to convert a regular player character into a villain one with GM consent?

[Cherry Lover]

Aside from the "no-killing without consent" rule and the extra slot, I don't think there's much difference between the two. I think the only thing you'd need approval for is if you wanted to take an extra character on top of your usual four.

[Alice]

You have to get consent to play a villain/antagonist character, and based on how Tom was categorized, whether they can occupy the antagonist slot or not depends on their redeemability. Basically, I would talk to Elf directly about it, since how things work for antagonists is a bit different in terms of approval stuff even if they play similarly to any normal character.

[Knick]

No, its an Antagonist Slot, meaning it is an actual antagonists that acts against player characters.

So it is very different.

[Alice]

Basically. Which is why the rules for approval are different, because it's easy to try and abuse that role, which is why Elf has to be more selective with who gets to fill that slot. It's also why a character in the antagonist slot can also be killed without permission, albeit within reason.

[Cherry Lover]

You have to get consent to play a villain/antagonist character, and based on how Tom was categorized, whether they can occupy the antagonist slot or not depends on their redeemability. Basically, I would talk to Elf directly about it, since how things work for antagonists is a bit different in terms of approval stuff even if they play similarly to any normal character.

So, we're not allowed to play evil characters without specific consent from Elf?

[Knick]

Evil =/= Antagonist

An Antagonist would be a force in which for PCs to organize and act against, basically each Antagonist is like an individual plot to deal with. Which is why Elf is controlling how many and what PCs are Antagonists.

[Kat]

My Vampire is not necessarily good, as her faith in God is twisted, but not an antagonist.

[Kurogami]

I have returned from the abyss. The abyss says hi, by the way. Hmm, characters...

Shameless self-insert Dovahkiin (Easy to scale to whatever I want it to, and I can't be accused of OOC.)

No, before anyone asks, none of the stats are legendary.

For an antagonist...

A Particular Black Mage

Haven't put much thought into any others.