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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1005 on: February 18, 2015, 06:27:06 PM »
Sorry for not clarifying, but the staff extends/retracts too quickly for that.

Even then, you still could see being drawn out and being prepared to be extended. And even if it was nigh-instantly, it would still be extended in such a way that it the two ends would grow, instead of one end just growing. Because if it did the latter, Michael would be at a disadvantage.

I fail to see how you could see it 'preparing to be extended' given that it just lengthens/retracts at will, but I've already posted and there's nothing meaningful to be gained in arguing this further.
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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1006 on: February 18, 2015, 06:56:15 PM »
...Ivan, you do realize that Neo should have been sent flying, unless he has the kind of grip strength that lets you resist being basically ragdoll'd, right?

For reference, Human Grip strength vs Angular speed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwo9AvTA5xY
« Last Edit: February 18, 2015, 07:01:10 PM by I_care_not_till_I_must »
[8:49:50 AM] Daniel Mahan: He can still get RAEG
[8:49:52 AM] Daniel Mahan: Just better at not loosing his marbles over it.
[8:50:09 AM] Helligator:> losing his marbles over it
                                      I seeeee what you did there


[11:00:22 PM] francobull III: elf, will you do rin?
[11:00:33 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I would love to do Rin!
[11:00:39 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I'd bend her over and . . .
[11:00:45 PM] francobull III: woah woah

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1007 on: February 18, 2015, 07:00:12 PM »
...Ivan, you do realize that Neo should have been sent flying, unless he has the kind of grip strength that lets you resist being basically ragdoll'd, right?

Well, yeah. In fact, he is being thrown away right now. Back away from Michael.




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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1008 on: February 18, 2015, 07:02:22 PM »
Then he shouldn't have still been holding onto that staff before Michael retracted it.
[8:49:50 AM] Daniel Mahan: He can still get RAEG
[8:49:52 AM] Daniel Mahan: Just better at not loosing his marbles over it.
[8:50:09 AM] Helligator:> losing his marbles over it
                                      I seeeee what you did there


[11:00:22 PM] francobull III: elf, will you do rin?
[11:00:33 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I would love to do Rin!
[11:00:39 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I'd bend her over and . . .
[11:00:45 PM] francobull III: woah woah

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1009 on: February 18, 2015, 07:16:23 PM »
Then he shouldn't have still been holding onto that staff before Michael retracted it.

Nope. The plan was to get close to him, break the flask and get thrown away when he extends the staff again. 




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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1010 on: February 18, 2015, 07:25:29 PM »
...Ivan, basic physics. Neo isn't holding onto that staff when Michael is swinging it and Neo around with Neo basically ragdolling.
[8:49:50 AM] Daniel Mahan: He can still get RAEG
[8:49:52 AM] Daniel Mahan: Just better at not loosing his marbles over it.
[8:50:09 AM] Helligator:> losing his marbles over it
                                      I seeeee what you did there


[11:00:22 PM] francobull III: elf, will you do rin?
[11:00:33 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I would love to do Rin!
[11:00:39 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I'd bend her over and . . .
[11:00:45 PM] francobull III: woah woah

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1011 on: February 18, 2015, 07:27:44 PM »
...Ivan, basic physics. Neo isn't holding onto that staff when Michael is swinging it and Neo around with Neo basically ragdolling.

Well, I didn't understand your post. I interpreted it as Michael retracting the staff and re-extending it, in which Neo kept his hold on to it.




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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1012 on: February 18, 2015, 07:37:23 PM »
He did that after swinging it around to shake him off/bash him into any nearby environmental objects.
[8:49:50 AM] Daniel Mahan: He can still get RAEG
[8:49:52 AM] Daniel Mahan: Just better at not loosing his marbles over it.
[8:50:09 AM] Helligator:> losing his marbles over it
                                      I seeeee what you did there


[11:00:22 PM] francobull III: elf, will you do rin?
[11:00:33 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I would love to do Rin!
[11:00:39 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I'd bend her over and . . .
[11:00:45 PM] francobull III: woah woah

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1013 on: February 18, 2015, 07:39:26 PM »
He did that after swinging it around to shake him off/bash him into any nearby environmental objects.

Well, he held.




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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1014 on: February 18, 2015, 07:41:07 PM »
...Ivan, basic physics. Neo isn't holding onto that staff when Michael is swinging it and Neo around with Neo basically ragdolling.

Basic physics isn't really on your side here, though. You are holding onto the rod close to the pivot point, he is holding it a long distance from the pivot point. You have to exert significantly more force to cause him to accelerate than he does to prevent it (or to cause you to accelerate, for that matter). And, using your body as the pivot point only causes it to be held stable at that point, it doesn't help with the acceleration.

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1015 on: February 18, 2015, 07:47:45 PM »
Fair point. I suppose physics got thrown out the window when Neo grabbed a nigh-instantly extending staff pointed at him, but ah well. I can work with this anyway.
[8:49:50 AM] Daniel Mahan: He can still get RAEG
[8:49:52 AM] Daniel Mahan: Just better at not loosing his marbles over it.
[8:50:09 AM] Helligator:> losing his marbles over it
                                      I seeeee what you did there


[11:00:22 PM] francobull III: elf, will you do rin?
[11:00:33 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I would love to do Rin!
[11:00:39 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I'd bend her over and . . .
[11:00:45 PM] francobull III: woah woah

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1016 on: February 18, 2015, 07:54:32 PM »
Fair point. I suppose physics got thrown out the window when Neo grabbed a nigh-instantly extending staff pointed at him, but ah well. I can work with this anyway.

He actually barely dodged it, before taking hold onto it.




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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1017 on: February 18, 2015, 08:04:05 PM »
Well, I have some complaints now.

How come Michael could quickly grab Neo's wrist to make him let go of the flask, when Neo quickly broke the flask by hitting it in the staff? Even if he has some sort of nigh-precognition, the very action of breaking a flask by hitting it in a nearby hard surface isn't directly threatening at all.




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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1018 on: February 18, 2015, 08:16:30 PM »
First of all, Neo put himself within Michael's reach when he held on to the staff when he retracted it to 8-feet long, as Michael pulled the staff in while retracting it. And, again, Michael was not kidding when he said that nothing Neo could do would surprise him. Michael is already sure Neo is an Alchemist, and when you're fighting an Alchemist it goes without saying that you don't let them use potions. Seeing the flask was enough.
[8:49:50 AM] Daniel Mahan: He can still get RAEG
[8:49:52 AM] Daniel Mahan: Just better at not loosing his marbles over it.
[8:50:09 AM] Helligator:> losing his marbles over it
                                      I seeeee what you did there


[11:00:22 PM] francobull III: elf, will you do rin?
[11:00:33 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I would love to do Rin!
[11:00:39 PM] Jennifer Bratcher: I'd bend her over and . . .
[11:00:45 PM] francobull III: woah woah

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1019 on: February 18, 2015, 08:51:15 PM »
Well, I have some complaints now.

How come Michael could quickly grab Neo's wrist to make him let go of the flask, when Neo quickly broke the flask by hitting it in the staff? Even if he has some sort of nigh-precognition, the very action of breaking a flask by hitting it in a nearby hard surface isn't directly threatening at all.

If someone you're fighting pulls out a flask, it's pretty obviously not for decoration. They're going to do something with it....