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[lantzblades]

I'm not lying Alice. He told the truth and they ignored it in favor of complaining at him further. Since the situation will not change it has become circular and circular situations are pointless and Rin is just bleeding hate at him which makes it dull.

[Daiki]

Remember, though, that Rider is also a familiar. A slightly unusual one, yes, but a familiar nevertheless. And, unlike Ruu, she's still contracted to her original summoner and protective of her.

Yeah I didn't forget, although Ruu doesn't even know what's a Servant, let alone they have a Master. For now, he only met Archer(Alice's) who's still bond to a Master and didn't pick up on the kind of relationship they have. 'Look like friends' would be his assumption for now. So, unless he gets a clear explanation(he's a bit slow), there's little chances he would understand by himself that Rider is a familiar, especially when her Master isn't around yet. Kuro and Kiyoshi, on the other hand, it is easy to understand.

(honestly, I'm surprised he isn't upset by Shuya too)

Only my guess but, might have to do with Satoshi saying he wouldn't bother with him, which is probably not a bad choice.

[lantzblades]

No daiki that is not why dude.

[Cherry Lover]

Yeah I didn't forget, although Ruu doesn't even know what's a Servant, let alone they have a Master. For now, he only met Archer(Alice's) who's still bond to a Master and didn't pick up on the kind of relationship they have. 'Look like friends' would be his assumption for now. So, unless he gets a clear explanation(he's a bit slow), there's little chances he would understand by himself that Rider is a familiar, especially when her Master isn't around yet. Kuro and Kiyoshi, on the other hand, it is easy to understand.

Well, yeah, true, but Rider is not really keeping it a secret, and if he tells her he's a familiar she would probably outright admit it.

You're right about Kuro (although technically he's Sakura's familiar rather than Kiyoshi's, at least mostly), but Kuro is also not sentient.

[Alice]

I'm not lying Alice. He told the truth and they ignored it in favor of complaining at him further. Since the situation will not change it has become circular and circular situations are pointless and Rin is just bleeding hate at him which makes it dull.

What I meant is that you were acting as if what I did was the only issue, so that's lying.

And as for what Satoshi said, his actions contradict what he's telling them. Rin knows this. She's seen little positive from him. He insulted her lover and the father of her child. She saw him threaten Hakuno's Archer and defend her shooter right in front of her. He pretty much ignored Kiyoshi in favor of trying to make himself look better. And failing. Miserably. Both Rin and D. Archer have reason to both really dislike him and distrust him. Because they don't know Toshi won't hurt them. Rin has seen evidence that he would very much so hurt them if they do certain things.

They're very much acting in character here. You're just too drawn up in seeing Toshi as this perfect paragon who no one should ever dare say anything wrong about to see it. Again, being that defensive over a character is a major red flag.

[lantzblades]

Alice if that were true then Satoshi would not have just copped to being insensitive in his approach

[Arch-Magos Winter]

...No, he didn't.

[lantzblades]

Yeah arch he did

[Alice]

lantz, he was already being insensitive. You just don't see it.

EDIT: And couldn't be any nicer to Kiyoshi or give him any more acknowledgement than that, huh? Didn't even give him the Gundam figure? ...lantz, are you trying to make Toshi unlikeable?

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Yeah arch he did

Not really, and he doesn't seem to in any way be apologetic for being a dick.

[lantzblades]

You perceive everything as insensitive Alice. You quite often misread my posts with worst view so I can't say I understand your viewpoint

[lantzblades]

That figure is char's ms while not technically a bad guy it makes more sense to build gundam and give it to him.

[Alice]

That's a gross exaggeration and you know it lantz. Also, a case of the pot calling the kettle black. And no, I'd say I'm reading your posts just fine...

And it still would have been a gift. To a little boy, a giant robot is a giant robot. It would have been a kind gesture at least instead of the almost complete dismissal he's been showing Kiyoshi thus far.

[Aiden]

Oh my God just drop it already, this isn't going to go anywhere.

[The Man With All The Cute Boats]

Yes, listen to Aiden. Drop this thing, Satoshi is already on his way to leave the argument anyway.

It's pointless to continue.