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[Cherry Lover]

Not really, because I'm judging the character (who is inside the story, and thus lacks that moral distinction) and not the person writing him. Writing a character who does evil things does not make you evil, but the character himself certainly is.

Obviously, yes, there is still a difference in scale and intent, but my point is that saying "they didn't think it was wrong" is not a defence when it quite obviously is.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

And?

Law eats souls as well, because sending them on isn't always an option. Is he evil? Besides, without a body, what use is a soul? Why spare the dead when the living can use them?

[Kat]

Discussing morality at Chinese porn games forums. Irony.

[lantzblades]

Wrong is wrong, eating souls, yeah, that's wrong, murder of thousands, wrong. They can justify it however they like, it's still wrong morally and socially.

[Cherry Lover]

And?

Law eats souls as well, because sending them on isn't always an option. Is he evil? Besides, without a body, what use is a soul? Why spare the dead when the living can use them?

I'm talking more about Karna and Gil than Grigori, really. Grigori has already made his lack of morality pretty clear, though....

[Brahmastra]

>Lawful Good
>Chaotic Good

They're good guys. My logic is flawless.

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[Kat]

Wrong is wrong

[Brahmastra]

Besides, Gil is the law. Anything he does is lawful and morally correct.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Wrong is wrong, eating souls, yeah, that's wrong, murder of thousands, wrong. They can justify it however they like, it's still wrong morally and socially.

How is it wrong? Please explain how it's wrong lantz.

[Umbra of Chaos]

To be fair it isn't like Grigori didn't have the mana to pull it off. He just didn't want to waste it when there were thousands of souls to fuel the spell for him. So you could say that action was evil to a few people. Grigori himself doesn't see anything wrong with it.

[Daiki]

Wrong is wrong, eating souls, yeah, that's wrong, murder of thousands, wrong. They can justify it however they like, it's still wrong morally and socially.

Morality differs with individuals. Even more so when you get some guys from different verses.

You're only saying it's wrong based on your own moral scale. You don't think about how some characters might view it differently.

[Mooncake]

Besides, Gil is the law. Anything he does becomes the truth of the universe.

FTFY

Also, haven't you read Grigori's sheet? It's not like Umbra hasn't already shown what Grigori is like. Not everybody is going to aim for a world of love and sunshine.

[Umbra of Chaos]

^This so much though. He wants revenge so he slaughters a kingdom of thousands and sells their souls to demon lords for a cage to trap the Death God. He wasn't a nice guy when he was mortal and he sure as hell isn't one now that he's divine and in a city full of playthings.

[lantzblades]

I don't care about the characters Daiki. Murder is against the law  in the nexus, murder is against the law in FSN socially and morally that makes it wrong. Senseless death is wrong, they are the bad guys here. They do everything that objectively defines a bad guys. In character justification does not excuse wholesale slaughter of innocent people.

[Brahmastra]

I don't care about the characters Daiki.

Well, that explains a lot.

Murder is against the law  in the nexus

We've never established the law in Nexus City
 

murder is against the law in FSN socially and morally that makes it wrong.

The answer given to us in HF, "Is killing always a sin, no matter what?" was no.

Senseless death is wrong, they are the bad guys here. They do everything that objectively defines a bad guys.

Accidental collateral damage.

In character justification does not excuse wholesale slaughter of innocent people.

Accidental collateral damage. At least we had the courtesy to address the murders. How many unmentioned people do you think Satoshi's castle, that "dwarfed skyscrapers", killed when it appeared?