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[Alice]

...lantz, did you really need to do that now? When we need to take a break so to speak from all these side quests and need to get recovered and get Isa's sister found? Especially since that could delay us even longer and keep Mil waiting even more than he's already patiently waited?

Pretty much except for the group Shuya's taking with him, our characters are obviously pretty exhausted. Which makes pulling that out right now even more inconsiderate. I'd appreciate it if you'd think more about the other people playing.


I probably won't be able to post until sometime tomorrow evening, btw. I have something important IRL that I need to take care of tomorrow, which will likely eat up most of the first part of the day for me.

[Daiki]

Probably better to wait a bit and organize before going for Satoshi, anyway.

On another note, Xamusel, if possible, I would like you to update.(and possibly be more active?) Otherwise, we'll just have to assume your character isn't there anymore. I'm willing to wait a bit, but we can't stall the night forever. Especially when Milbunk is waiting. If you dropped off the thing or are lacking time to post, just say so.

[lantzblades]

Firstly there is such a thing as communication, I would think these characters are all smart enough to talk before taking action. Secondly my characters having been sidelined from the game's start so calling me inconsiderate is a bit like calling the kettle black. Furthermore this is a huge trap it's not like he's inviting them for tea, it's so obvious that I think only inspector gadget would fall for it and also it ties into something  discussed earlier.

Finally perhaps this wouldn't have occurred ifi wasn't forced to generate  action for my characters  by isolated interaction between my own characters.

[Alice]

@Daiki: That's true enough. The way it was phrased though, I didn't know if Toshi was going to force the issue right then and there or not. But you're definitely correct in that that's the right course of action to take.

@lantz: That doesn't mean that you take it out on us though, especially when, like I said, Mil's waiting already. Plus it'd be easy enough to ignore except that Toshi made a threat Rider can't really ignore, which is extra bad because she's weakened right now. And there's a number of characters that wouldn't just let her go off by herself, so that makes this rather hard to blow off.

The thing is, this isn't the first time you've been inconsiderate to others in the RP. A RP only works well if everyone is willing to be considerate of one another and respect the fact that they aren't the only person playing. Therefore you have to consider what the other players want too. We already have Nessa to bring back to Isa and Downey's plot to foil, which will be a big thing within itself. We don't need yet another thing to deal with on top of all that right now, and again, the way you presented it makes it difficult to ignore, obvious trap or no.   

Also, most of what you're characters have done is keep telling characters how they're wrong while your characters are right and keep ostracising and even threatening someone for not taking adult responsibility despite the fact he's only 11 years old. Either that, or it's been something that's been out of place for the situation. It makes it so your characters are unpleasant to interact with, and often times there is little reason to do so. That, combined with your continued lack of consideration for the other players makes it hard for us to interact with them.

Plus we haven't completely ignored you. And again, you're not the only player here. Mil hasn't hardly gotten to do anything, how do you think he feels? 

I'm sorry to become so harsh now, but I felt like I needed to finally say something (also, I should be in bed now, since I have to get up early, but... Well, also, this wasn't the best time for me to have to try and take care of this anyway. Tomorrow is a pretty big deal for me, I'm just a touch stressed about it, and this wasn't the best timing for this in the slightest). 

[OPOI]

By the way, are we going on the basis that Vanessa was abducted without Sephiroth noticing, or is the kidnapper Sephiroth? I'm a bit confused. Xam really needs to post.

Also, Lantz, your characters were only sidelined because you kept pulling them out. Alter would have been in the thick of it if she hadn't randomly left. And besides, Satoshi and Forest had a huge ass fight didn't he? I'd say he's had a decent role so far. The main problem with Taiga is that...well, she's a girl in a wheelchair. There isn't much she can do. Sakura seems to be doing fine. Actually, I don't see why you say your characters were sidelined at all, they've participated in all the main events so far...

[Cherry Lover]

I don't see a problem with what he's doing, honestly. The only person he's called-out is Rider, and it seems like he wants to face her alone. Rider is not "low" on prana, as such, she just needs prana generally and was being proactive about it. Plus, if prana is an issue I can bring Sakura in. Further, Rider is a heroic spirit and, as such, does not get tired. So, she has no real reason not to go.

Possibly Toshi should have been clearer about wanting Rider to come alone, but otherwise I don't think there's an issue with it. I have no problem with fighting Toshi and, in fact, it's something I've been trying to set up, for my own reasons. It's entirely up to everyone else if they want to come along, but I doubt Rider will particularly encourage it, especially since Toshi seems to want her to live through the beating.

Plus, as OPOI pointed out, we don't necessarily have to come now, although Rider likely will want to after the way he threatened Sakura. Honestly, though, she wouldn't trust Shirou or Shuya to come along with her, and the rest have other things to do (like sleep...), plus she'd want them to keep Kiyoshi safe.

[Alice]

In terms of the Xam thing, if we have to, we can either assume Sephiroth moved elsewhere, or someone else can temporarily take control of him. It's Elf's call though. He does need to post or at least tell us that he's dropped out/is busy for sure though.

And I disagree that Toshi's thing is easy for other characters to ignore. Hakuno for instance probably would want to make sure that Rider doesn't go alone, and Rider wanting to go right away makes it so there's no time for anyone who wants to go with to rest first.

[Cherry Lover]

In terms of the Xam thing, if we have to, we can either assume Sephiroth moved elsewhere, or someone else can temporarily take control of him. It's Elf's call though. He does need to post or at least tell us that he's dropped out/is busy for sure though.

Yeah, I think he's intending to post but is procrastinating about it....

And I disagree that Toshi's thing is easy for other characters to ignore. Hakuno for instance probably would want to make sure that Rider doesn't go alone, and Rider wanting to go right away makes it so there's no time for anyone who wants to go with to rest first.

That is perhaps true, but in the end it is your choice. You can't blame Lantz for being in-character because you think you should respond in-character in that way. Also, who is going to go with her? Hakuno needs rest, as do all the other humans. Archer is possible, true, but why is it such an issue even if he does?

It might be good if Rider gets back in contact with him, though, to confirm that he wants her to come solo. That would make things much easier. Otherwise I might have Rider just assume that, because she would rather get an embarrassing beating than let Sakura die. Plus, if she goes alone that means that she doesn't have anyone else to stop her doing what she likes to Toshi, and I can't imagine Hakuno being too happy with the sort of brutal torture Rider would put him through if she defeated him after what he just threatened....

[Alice]

I mainly bring that up because it means it can be difficult to ignore. My main issue is lantz's timing with this. Otherwise I wouldn't be bringing up the issue.

As for Hakuno, it's possible for Archer to make sure she doesn't go (since he cares more about her safety than anything else), but the torture thing assumes Rider wins. If she loses, she'll be difficult to rescue, and that in itself will take quite some time to solve. That part for sure will be difficult to ignore.

[Elf]

The thing that gets me is that Dark Archer was grouped with all the people who tried to convience Kyoishi off his path.  D. Archer didn't even talk to the kid, he's been at Rin's side the entire time.

Still, he's not going to care either way.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, Toshi is an idiot.

Still, I don't think this will cause too many problems. Rider is going to have to deal with Toshi alone, for Sakura's safety.

[Cherry Lover]

Also, OPOI, Shirou is really good at refusing to accept the truth. I mean, Kiyoshi just ran at Rin and called her "Aunty Rin", I'm not sure how that leaves any room for doubts about who his mother is....

[Alice]

Sorry to make such a fuss earlier, was primarily stressed out due to IRL things, so I didn't really think things through/got more frustrated at the whole thing than I normally would have. ^_^"

As for D. Archer being grouped with the others, he may have been referring to the "good" Archer specifically, but I'm not sure.

And I don't know if I'll be able to post tonight at all, as I still have matters of importance to take care of IRL. When I do though... let's just say that D. Archer isn't the only one that's going to be giving Toshi a lecture, and nor is it the person you'd quite expect.

[Xamusel]

Sorry for my delays... life has been a tricky and fickle mistress to me.

Besides which, I've had a case of forgetfulness to this, which I want to undo.

[Daiki]

It's okay. Just tell us when you need time to post or need to take a break.

By the way, are we going on the basis that Vanessa was abducted without Sephiroth noticing, or is the kidnapper Sephiroth? I'm a bit confused. Xam really needs to post.

For now she's with the winged angel, still out and lying on the ground or searching for her sister. The kidnapped part was just Isa being worried. What she's doing now will mostly depends on what Xam post.