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[Cherry Lover]

Mike, pencils and erasers, characters aren't perfect, it's part of their character. And Sakura flat out said that she wanted an opportunity to straighten things out

Sure, but whilst "it's their character" is a valid OOC excuse for how they act is it not a valid IC excuse. If your characters treat everyone else like shit then they're going to get the same treatment in response.

That doesn't change the point that people don't have an obligation to interact with his characters if the don't want to.

Sure, but Lantz never claimed they did. He has not forced anyone to interact with him, at least beyond general group clusterfucks and other reasonable actions that the rest of us have also taken. Raul showed up at the castle because Magos chose to, as did Inferno Cop and Rider.

All he was saying is that, in the absense of anyone willing to involve his characters, he has to make his own storylines in order to not be left twiddling his thumbs. If no-one else wants to involve him then planning things out for himself makes perfect sense.

[Elf]

Lantz, read what Mike said:

I don't think people are deliberately avoiding you in general, but your characters do share your tendancy to miscommunicate a lot, which makes the other characters wary of them ICly. For example the stuff with Sakura getting mad at Rin, where you completely misunderstood what Rin was saying and acting like she was claiming Toshi was worse than Gil. Similarly, Taiga was quite mean to Kiyoshi when they first met, and not every character is going to just overlook that.

If someone was a douche to you, would you want to go talk to them?

Taiga was really mean to Kiyoshi when they first met, and Sakura had this very superior attitude when she met the main group. 

Look at the characters who get along well with people and have a lot of play.  They don't have to be super nice to get interaction.  Lancer won respect by being Lancer- He talked to people, got pissy at both Archers, and he's bro.  Haku-chan gets people talking to her because she's nice and not really helpless, but sort of brings out protective instincts in people. 

Not to mention, having interaction doesn't mean they have to be buddy buddy.  Look at Forest and Rider's interaction.  They're not going to go out and be best friends, but they did talk to each other.  Even if Forest found Rider's constant perv a little scary and Rider didn't like the fact that Forest could see into her mind.

[lantzblades]

It happens, letting characters reveal why or hell in Sakura's case apologize for flipping out as she did is a decent part of development of characters and relationships. Not everything is a perfect how do you do

and Sakura came off as superior I guess but then this is her job, go to a place do a thing write a report. She just tries to hard, you guys would know that if she wasn't laid up from a stupid (and yes in hindsight impossible move but really we were kinda fucked because Sakura can't hop back and forth between worlds, I like accuracy in my characters abilities) and hey she fucking apologized right afterwards and said she wanted a chance to make amends. I think that's fair.

and Taiga is mean yeah a lil bit but she's out of her comfort zone and she takes Kiyoshi seriously about being a hero, her role model for teacher and student are her mom and brother. Is it ideal? Fuck no, she's eight without supervision.

[Elf]

It happens, letting characters reveal why or hell in Sakura's case apologize for flipping out as she did is a decent part of development of characters and relationships. Not everything is a perfect how do you do

Lantz, I'm trying to explain this to you.  So is Mike. 

Yet you're being defensive about it when we're trying to help.  That's part of what the problem is.

[Cherry Lover]

It happens, letting characters reveal why or hell in Sakura's case apologize for flipping out as she did is a decent part of development of characters and relationships. Not everything is a perfect how do you do

Yeah, sure, but first impressions do count for a lot. Plus, Rin's anger management isn't exactly top-notch either.

The thing is that this has to be realistic. If the first thing someone does when you meet them is scream abuse at you you're probably not going to look fondly on them. Apologising is fine but you are going to have to do more than that to make them actually like you, or even to want to interact with you.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

At the same time the way your characters act is quite frankly, horrible. Like they are the type of people that I would go to all measures to avoid dealing with in real life.

I mean, good god. They are masters of the overreaction.

Satoshi sighed and flipped his magic circuit into the on position, the one draw back of being the dragon right down to the soul was that once on it was obvious where he was and just how strong he was. Not ideal for him in a city like the one he found himself in but still he needed to make a point and turned around to face archer and rider as his outfit melted away replaced with his own azure mantle and shinning  steel armour.

"I was not speaking about Sakura Rider, I was talking about the other lives you insulted." he stated flatly staring at Archer as the blonde  materialized his massive whip sword dragon tail, the sword was entirely blunt like a steel oar save for a  pair of  protrusions at the end similar to an anchor. The blade was slightly bigger than Hercules own rock sword yet it put no strain on it's wielder.

"speak again as you have Archer and your master will find herself without a servant, harm that other Emiya and I will come after you, you have no idea what you are talking about so clam up" he snapped at the biker clad servant

This was I think, in response to Archer pretty much telling the truth. I mean seriously Lantz, he's threatening Archer. ARCHER. OVER NOTHING. HE'S THREATENING TO KILL ACCORDING TO YOU, THE SAME DUDE AS HIS DAD, OVER NOTHING.

What a fucking douchebag.

For that matter, another issue is your constant freaking gushing over how perfect and noble Satoshi is, when nothing he does backs that up. At all. Ever. For someone 2000+ years old he acts like an utter moron.

[lantzblades]

I edited my reply, look guys I'm fixing the now issue, I can't time travel and use future knowledge to change things.

I can't do anything but mark it down as yeah it wasn't a stellar move, best avoid that in the future

[Cherry Lover]

This was I think, in response to Archer pretty much telling the truth. I mean seriously Lantz, he's threatening Archer. ARCHER. OVER NOTHING. HE'S THREATENING TO KILL ACCORDING TO YOU, THE SAME DUDE AS HIS DAD, OVER NOTHING.

What a fucking douchebag.

Yeah, this bit he did get called out on by just about everyone, Rider included.

For that matter, another issue is your constant freaking gushing over how perfect and noble Satoshi is, when nothing he does backs that up. At all. Ever. For someone 2000+ years old he acts like an utter moron.

To be fair, he is currently corrupted (well, was, anyway...). Compare Dark Sakura to normal Sakura....

Also, if you believed everything Kiyoshi says about his parents you'd think Sakura was an angel descended from heaven. True she is pretty nice, but she's not perfect, yet he would make her out to be.

[lantzblades]

Arch seriously stuff it, if your demon  hadn't interrupted Archer (Alice's) was going to get an apology over the phone from Satoshi and an explanation for why, there is a reason.

and no he doesn't act 2000 but there's again a reason for that

[Arch-Magos Winter]

To be fair, he is currently corrupted (well, was, anyway...). Compare Dark Sakura to normal Sakura....

That shouldn't apply to the pretty dickish way he was acting before he got corrupted, or 'Sakura' acting like a total fucking bitch all the damn time (And then the van thing) also, and Taiga kinda being this utter asshole to basically everyone and acting violently when people try and help her. I mean seriously. Are we supposed to feel sympathy for her? Because if we are, that's not how you get sympathy points. At all.

[Cherry Lover]

That shouldn't apply to the pretty dickish way he was acting before he got corrupted,

No, sure, but Lantz has already admitted that the way Toshi acted then was a mistake. As he said, he can't go back in time and change it.

or 'Sakura' acting like a total fucking bitch all the damn time (And then the van thing)

Sakura is Rin's daughter, "acting like a bitch" is not entirely unreasonable, especially when she's angry. And the van thing was just convinience, if she'd not done that we'd have spent the next 50 posts walking home....

also, and Taiga kinda being this utter asshole to basically everyone and acting violently when people try and help her. I mean seriously. Are we supposed to feel sympathy for her? Because if we are, that's not how you get sympathy points. At all.

Well, Taiga is a little child. Children do act like that.

[lantzblades]

I mean I get it elf, mike they weren't the best openings but if the players won't let the interaction go past that I can't do anything. It's not just on me here, I need other players to play the game and let my characters move forward.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, what does Toshi intend to say to Archer about why he made the threat? Because if it's "well, servants have less right to live" I don't see that going across too well....

But, yeah, I think people should give you a chance to put things right if you botched your opening. Although, it does have to make sense in-character. They're not going to instantly just say "let's ignore everything that happened and act as if we've only just met her", you need to do some groundwork here.

[Aiden]

Arch seriously stuff it, if your demon  hadn't interrupted Archer (Alice's) was going to get an apology over the phone from Satoshi and an explanation for why, there is a reason.

and no he doesn't act 2000 but there's again a reason for that

It's a reason people aren't seeing, based on the reactions here. I wouldn't know, I wasn't here and I haven't read everything yet.

And to be reasonable here, did he have any way of knowing that an apology like that was going to happen? Did you communicate this fact beforehand? Honest question, because I didn't read it yet.

[Bloble]

lantz, people will interact with your characters if they want to interact with your characters. What you need to do is make your characters more 'attractive' to other players, who will then want to have their own characters associate with yours. Otherwise there's no point to it. Basically, you have to make those interactions you want desirable for others in addition to yourself.