Dark Side of the Moon
Type Moon => Fanfiction => Topic started by: Alice on October 26, 2013, 02:35:41 AM
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So yeah, I'll go ahead and start one of these then. The idea is that someone posts an idea for a fic to write (which constitutes the "dare"), and then after the fic is written, the person who asked for the dare has to write a fic in response to the person who replied to the dare according to their specifications. You can also dare someone specifically. However, they do not have to respond to the dare for sure.
Try to keep dares reasonable and avoid subject matter that is bashy or just plain horrible. Same goes with response dares. If you have a dare answered, please try to make sure you actually write a response fic in response as specified by the person who wrote the dare. (coughCherryLoveryoustillneedtowritethatonefromlasttimecough) Also, don't do a crappy job if you choose to reply to a dare. Especially to try to prompt someone to write something, especially something they don't want to write.
With that said, commence! I'll keep track of various dares and the progress there-of in the OP.
Dares:
Xamusel to Arch-Magos Winter: Shirou and Shinji have a fistfight (and Shirou wins). Current Status: Incomplete
NamesAreHardToComeUpWith to Arch-Magos Winter: Magos-specific Dare. Current Status: Incomplete
Xamusel to NamesAreHardToComeUpWith: Ayako Route. Current Status: Incomplete
which is a Counter-dare to:
NamesAreHardToComeUpWith to Xamusel: "I dare you, Xamusel, to write Zouken playing super smash bros (On the 64) versus Shinji, Sakura and Byakuya(Shinji's dad). Shinji and Sakura are, naturally, young and very confused as to why their grandfather wants them to play videogames.
Hard Mode: Zouken has to ragequit like a child." Current Status: Incomplete
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Actually, the one I owe Elf is from BL. I do intend to get it done, but I'm rather stuck on it at the moment.
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I know- which is why I just poked at you for it rather than putting it in the dare list in the OP. :3 But yeah, if you need help with that, like I've said elsewhere, just ask me. :) I'll try to help the best I can.
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Well, just to be contrary, I will not be taking any dares until Mike finishes mine from BL.
Or he could just pay me for the fic I wrote for him. I'll take cash.
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See Cherry? Now you have some extra incentive~ >:3
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Okay, quick question, but is this limited to Type-MOON fics? Or can it be any fandom?
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I think it would be best to state (for those interested in taking dares) to state what their limitations are.
With that in mind I'll pretty much write anything except loli and yaoi. Lemon is acceptable.
Given that you started the thread Alice I'm curious if you are up for giving/taking dares and what you do and do not write.
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As far as what lantz said, I have to agree, even if not particularly in-depth on reasoning.
Anyway, currently busy on something right now, I'll be back as soon as I can to give Alice a dare (namely, when she explains what she prefers to do, and when I'm actually awake enough to give a rat's ass).
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Fucking throw one at me people!
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I take this to mean that you have no problem writing anything asked Arch, since you've given no parameters to go by. Correct me if I misunderstood you.
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I take this to mean that you have no problem writing anything asked Arch, since you've given no parameters to go by. Correct me if I misunderstood you.
Lemon is sorta out of the question. Otherwise? ANYTHING.
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Ok, just wanted that to be clear for others.
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Ok, just wanted that to be clear for others.
So no requests?
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Okay, quick question, but is this limited to Type-MOON fics? Or can it be any fandom?
Hmm... well, it is in the TM fanfic section, so it might limit it to TM, but I'm not sure yet. ^_^" I may need to think about it.
As for my preferences and limitations and such? Well...
I guess I'll start with stuff to avoid completely with me. First, avoid asking me for stuff involving Kariya. I could probably avoid writing something vaguely bashy with him in it, but nonetheless, I'm playing it safe here, since I don't condone bash fics as such since it's just poor writing besides being kinda dumb. Second, no harems. Third, no wanking. By wanking, I mean no, "Shirou has all these superpowers thanks to his projection now!" types of stories. ...I'll probably think of more later as they come up, but I'll settle for that for now.
As for preferences, I like Archer the best, but am still pretty flexible on the character front for the most part. Pairings wise, I'm also pretty flexible, unless it's something creepy or wrong. Abusive relationships unironically portrayed in a romantic light are also a big no. I also don't mind writing Boy's Love or Girl's Love, even if it's not really my preference. As for sex related stuff, I'm kinda still learning on the lemon front, so keeping those requests on the lower end might not hurt. If you do ask me to write a lemon though, try to keep it on the milder side. ...I'll probably add more to this too eventually.
And I'll leave you with those two bloated paragraphs for now. ^_^" Again, I may have more to add as I go along.
And as for dares of my own... My idea well is kinda dry right now, but I'll definitely post a dare in here once I think of one. Sorry Magos, I'll try to remedy that asap. :(
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Hmm... now that I have an idea, I may as well share it for Magos.
Magos, I dare you to write a fic where Shirou and Shinji have a fistfight (and Shirou wins).
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Well Arch Alice stated her preferences so I think I can kill two birds with one stone by answering your question with my preferences in this context.
I am primarily an action writer (despite what otherwise seems the case) so I like action fictions and comedy these alone I think you could do but the other half of this are my OC's they aren't in every idea I have in regards to this kinda thing but I enjoy suggesting things where others use them because it gives me insight into perspectives other than my own and I get to see others applying logic and their perception to accomplish said dares.
your perception of my OC's is Mary sue thus requesting at least half of what I would dare from you becomes somewhat pointless since I can't learn anything from a Mary sue fic.
and really the other two points action and comedy seem better if I write them myself rather then export them period.
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Hmm... now that I have an idea, I may as well share it for Magos.
Magos, I dare you to write a fic where Shirou and Shinji have a fistfight (and Shirou wins).
There we go. Now I have time to think of an idea for a dare, a real good one (note: quality of dare is not guaranteed, but eh, I'll try to think of something good at least)~ :3
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Glad to know I was of help, Alice, really am.
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No problem. :) Also, Magos, if you're willing to accept Xam's dare, I'll happily put it up in the OP for you.
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Well, just to be contrary, I will not be taking any dares until Mike finishes mine from BL.
I see....
Well, I'll try to get it done as soon as I can, although I'm not sure threatening is really helpful. It makes it rather difficult to do a good job of it when I'm rushing....
Or he could just pay me for the fic I wrote for him. I'll take cash.
I have no money....
Okay, quick question, but is this limited to Type-MOON fics? Or can it be any fandom?
Well, it is in the TM forum, but I see no reason why it should be restricted to that. However, I think you should assume the dare is TM-related unless the person asking specifically says otherwise, and I think that you should probably not assume that return dares that aren't TM are OK unless you agree it with the person beforehand.
I think it would be best to state (for those interested in taking dares) to state what their limitations are.
Hmm, well, I obviously can't take or give any dares until I'm done with Elf's, but once I am done with that then I can do basically anything FSN-related as long as it's not anti-Sakura (i.e. bashing her, set in a timeline where she's dead or one where her situation would be presumed to be bad and I can't do anything to change that presumption). Things involving characters I actually like and know about are a lot easier to write, though (hence where I'm getting a bit stuck with Elf's fic).
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No problem. :) Also, Magos, if you're willing to accept Xam's dare, I'll happily put it up in the OP for you.
Sure. It'll be a fun one to write.
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Someone make me write something
No yaoi or lemons. Anyone who puts "cooking scene" anywhere in their post is automatically disregarded.
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Oh, Nachos, I forgot to finish that dare from before! I'll get back to it as soon as I can.
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Wait what
Oh yeah the SSB one. Didn't Zalgo Jenkins write it just because he was interested in the premise?
Anyway more is better when Sakura plays videogames, so go for it!
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Thanks for that.
I promise that I'll get that finished as soon as I can.
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For the record I don't do incest or loli. Also, I really don't want to write Emiya Shirou sex, at least as he is in FSN. If he's older . . . then I'd consider it.
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I guess I'll open myself to dares, but keep in mind I may hold off starting work on it until I get Cherry to finish writing Elf's fic for her.
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I have four dares,anyone is free to take them with the exception of Arch for the reason I listed previously. I may have to double post sorry in advance.
1) an A team parody. Kiritsugu, Archer, Shirou and Satoshi (my OC) get hired to do the A team thing. What that is exactly is up to the author.
2) Shirou and Satoshi enter the moon cell and meet up with extra Archer. This is Lemon plain and simple but I have rules and such. Firstly. Archer X Hakuno(the female mc from extra) Archer can also involve extra Rin in the sex but at least FemC must be involved. Secondly no Rani, Ronnie or Alice I hate the first one and the other two are creepy for obvious reasons. Thirdly no sharing, this means the guys don't get involved with the same woman as the other boys do. Finally Shirou and Satoshi need partners in this as well, they can get with any of the remaining female characters present in extra including npc but not Ryougi.
3) Shirou, Archer and Satoshi go to rescue three of the TM girls. Bad guy is up to the author but the boys have to win. As always avoid incest, no loli. Sex is optional for this fiction but if you do, don't leave any of the boys out of the fun. As always the boys are separate with the sex scenes, no sharing.
4) The TM cast plays a melty blood type fighting game including all the tm characters. All the characters watch the matches, make comments alongside the competitors. The rules are as follows, the characters may not pick themselves to use in the game, win or lose the following must occur. Kiritsugu versus kotomine, lancer versus Archer, Satoshi versus Gilgamesh, Shirou versus Shinji, Caster versus Rider. Anything else is up to you the author. It's action comedy
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Hm well, I don't read your fics so I don't really know Satoshi, so I'll pass.
Though once Arch is done his fic for Xamusel, I totally have one in mind specifically for him.
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You can actually dare someone while they're already taking a dare if you so choose- the one catch is that the person themselves has to be OK with that. So if Magos is cool with it, you can go ahead and dare him right now if you want. :3
Also, should I go ahead and specify that in the OP?
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Hm well, I don't read your fics so I don't really know Satoshi, so I'll pass.
Though once Arch is done his fic for Xamusel, I totally have one in mind specifically for him.
Hit me with the idea, the Shirou/Shinji fistfight is something I can crank out today without issue.
Lantz - a little bit of advice for free: NOBODY WANTS TO WRITE ABOUT YOUR OC. EVER.
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Magos, are you really not capable of refraining from making pointless digs at Lantz at every opportunity you get?
You might not want to write stories about his OC, but you cannot speak for everyone else. If you're not interested then just don't dare him.
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Well.... I won't say anything about Toshi in here, because I don't want to drag this out any more than I suspect that it will be dragged out, but while he shouldn't be generalizing and could do with being a bit less angry about it (keep that in mind, Magos), I can see his point.
It's probably not the best idea for lantz to assume everyone wants to write about his OC, especially when there's so little information. I wouldn't dare someone to write about Mille for instance unless they were a friend that already knew about her or people were already bringing her up to be written about. ...And even then, I probably wouldn't be likely to do it.
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But he's not assuming everyone will want to write his OC. That's not how dares work.
You put the dare out there and then people make the choice of whether to write it or not. If people aren't interested then they just don't take the dare. People don't have a right to be dared by anyone on their own terms.
Frankly, I think Magos should bloody leave Lantz alone. Lantz has done nothing wrong here. He put out a dare based on what he wants to see. If I put out a dare that is hardcore BDSM, are you going to have a go at me for not being inclusive enough?
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True- the problem is that Toshi tends to be pushed at us at every turn, and I have to admit, it does get irritating. So I can see where Magos is coming from here.
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True- the problem is that Toshi tends to be pushed at us at every turn, and I have to admit, it does get irritating. So I can see where Magos is coming from here.
How is Toshi "pushed at us"? Lantz writes his stories like everyone else does, if you don't like them then don't bloody read them. And, if you don't want to write his OCs then don't.
There is a bloody simple solution to this. Just don't take the dare. But don't assume that everyone else will not be interested either, or try to force Lantz to conform to your wishes. The whole point of a bloody dare thread is to get people to write stories you want to read, so there is nothing wrong with Lantz doing exactly that.
Like I said, if I come out with a hardcore BDSM dare, will you have a go at me for that because you don't like it? It hardly makes the thread come alive if you start attacking people for making dares you don't approve of....
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Oh God, that argument. I hate that argument so much. I kinda can't avoid it, I have to monitor that thread just like I monitor every other thread. And I mean every single one of lantz's things involves Toshi somehow, and it's obnoxious.
And the problem is that Toshi never goes away. Every fanfiction thread lantz participates in, he's shoved down our throats. It's hard to ignore it when it's freaking everywhere. That's the problem I have. Plus it's kinda troubling that lantz only wants to read stories with his OC in them.
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Oh God, that argument. I hate that argument so much. I kinda can't avoid it, I have to monitor that thread just like I monitor every other thread. And I mean every single one of lantz's things involves Toshi somehow, and it's obnoxious.
Yes, but that's part of the job of being an admin, unfortunately. You can't expect the site to be full only of stuff you like.
And the problem is that Toshi never goes away. Every fanfiction thread lantz participates in, he's shoved down our throats. It's hard to ignore it when it's freaking everywhere. That's the problem I have.
Then we need more activity from other people. Stop blaming Lantz for things that aren't his fault.
Plus it's kinda troubling that lantz only wants to read stories with his OC in them.
What, like it is "troubling" that I only want to read stories with Sakura...?
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I explained why I used him in these dares about a page back. I have done my best to be civil Alice but frankly between the attacks and your attitude I'm kinda sick of this.
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I wouldn't force the site to be just stuff I like, no. But we also need actual standards. This is getting to the point where we're just coddling lantz, and quite frankly, it needs to stop.
And I didn't say anything about anything being lantz's fault. What I'm saying is that he does shove Toshi into most everything he writes regardless of context, and it is annoying. It's not good form, again, it'd be like if I forced my own OC into everything I wrote.
And no, it's not troubling you want to read stories about Sakura. But she's not your own OC that you tend to include in almost all your fanfiction either. And quite frankly... well, we're finally into this anyway, so no holding back now I guess. Toshi is a painful Mary Sue. The fact that lantz feels obligated to shove him into all of his works only reinforces this. And quite frankly, I'm kinda really tired of him.
And lantz, I'm sick of it too. Really sick of it. In more ways than one.
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I wouldn't force the site to be just stuff I like, no. But we also need actual standards. This is getting to the point where we're just coddling lantz, and quite frankly, it needs to stop.
No, we don't need "standards", because that implies that someone has to be a judge of those standards. We have no right to decree what is an acceptable fic.
And I didn't say anything about anything being lantz's fault.
You're acting like it, though.
What I'm saying is that he does shove Toshi into most everything he writes regardless of context, and it is annoying. It's not good form, again, it'd be like if I forced my own OC into everything I wrote.
I don't see why writing stories with your OC is a problem. People can write whatever they desire to write. And, dares in particular tend to be things you really want to see that otherwise won't get written, so something like a story with his OC is sensible in that regard. No-one is likely to write Satoshi without that incentive.
And no, it's not troubling you want to read stories about Sakura. But she's not your own OC that you tend to include in almost all your fanfiction either.
There's not really a massive difference. They're both characters that we like. Just because one is designed by Nasu and the other by Lantz, it doesn't mean we should be expected to take different attitude to them.
And quite frankly... well, we're finally into this anyway, so no holding back now I guess. Toshi is a painful Mary Sue. The fact that lantz feels obligated to shove him into all of his works only reinforces this. And quite frankly, I'm kinda really tired of him.
Then don't read it.....
And lantz, I'm sick of it too. Really sick of it. In more ways than one.
Sick of what? Him actually posting stuff? How terrible of him....
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You know nothing of why he shows up Alice, frankly the term Mary sue shows me that there is no point in bothering to explain anything to you. Think as you want but honestly stay away from me. All you have done is attack me, I never did a fucking thing to you.
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*sigh* Okay, even though I'm not an admin on this forum, I have one thing to say about this situation.
SHUT THE HELL UP!!
I am not a fan of arguing, and, frankly, I'm sick and tired of bringing an otherwise perfectly fine thread to the level of stupidity that belongs in the spam section of the forums. If you guys can't bother taking this to a different part of the internet, then what's the point of having this debate at all?!
This message brought to you by concerned members of the forum.
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You know nothing of why he shows up Alice, frankly the term Mary sue shows me that there is no point in bothering to explain anything to you. Think as you want but honestly stay away from me. All you have done is attack me, I never did a fucking thing to you.
Lantz - he's a sue. Everything about him that I've seen about him raises so many of my Sue alarms it isn't even funny anymore. Your shoving him into EVERYTHING is also as Alice put, annoying and just highlights everything wrong with the character.
Mike - the problem is we're coddling lantz. He's a big boy, and needs to realize that we don't hate him personally. What we do hate is his OC.
Drawing a comparison to Sakura and lantz OC is a moot point. Sakura is a character with actual depth, flaws, a backstory, a personality that isn't one dimensional, and is a canon character. Like it or not, she's part of TYPE-MOON's lore. The other thing is that Lantz shoves his OC's in your face - "Here's my OC guys he's awesome and perfect and I want you to write a story about him and only about him and he's not a mary sue guyz srsly I hate you for pointing out his flaws and shit." - and then when we point out what's wrong with him he blatantly ignores us, deletes threads with applicable criticism, and so on and so forth.
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Magos, I suggest that we all take Xamusel's advice here, and just leave it. It's not doing anyone any good.
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Hm well, I don't read your fics so I don't really know Satoshi, so I'll pass.
Though once Arch is done his fic for Xamusel, I totally have one in mind specifically for him.
Hit me with the idea, the Shirou/Shinji fistfight is something I can crank out today without issue.
Remember your steampunk wizardry enforcer bro and my apparently-durrsden(I have reasons why this isn't true but NOBODY CARES) from the fanfic contest a while back?
Write something about them.
You can use any other characters you like(canon as much as anything), just write about those two, doing things together.
This is why it's you-only. Because I know you read both pieces.
Come to me if you need anything, except advice on how to pick up ladies.
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Thanks for shifting the topic back to the right location, Nachos, I'm sure we all appreciate it.
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A thread is like a good pile of compost. Every now and again, you have to turn the entire pile after receiving a load of goat manure to keep adequate quality.
Yes, I put that previous conversation in the same category as goat shit, only less helpful in the long run.
We've seen that conversation before, a million times. Lantz has been told often enough, repeatedly, over and over that his character's a, and I quote, mary sue. Whether or not the statement is true, I don't give a fuck since I don't read his fics.
Nothing has changed from it, as Lantz will keep writing Satoshi in all his fics, and nothing will change by having the conversation again. Yet it will happen again, because of reasons I don't care about.
Which is why in Lantz threads, all I do is try to keep Magos from being banned while poking at him with cheetos and neckbeard jokes, because he comes from the same side of town that I do (/tg/) and that means something to me.
In the end, I just want to have a good time, instead of the same conversation ad infinitum.
ANYWAY
XAMUSEL
YOU
How's that super smash Matou fic going?
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How's it going?
Unfortunately, it ain't, at least not yet. I'm still heavily distracted by other projects... but I promise that I'll get to work on it today, and see how to finish the story.
By the way, if you don't mind, I have a dare for you. If you want to continue it past the opening stage, that's fine, but... it's all up to you.
Namely, my idea is for you to do the illusive Ayako route, only it's the first day of the route (as far as I can tell in my head right now). It starts with Shirou going back to the Archery club... and anything past that is up to you.
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HUM
That reminds me, I should maybe repost hospital bed on darkside for the plebeans who didn't get to read it first time around.
But yeah, first day of the route nothing big will happen. You understand this, right?
I mean, first day of Fate Saber wasn't even there.
UNLESS you mean first day after he becomes a mastah.
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He's not in even half of them Names. Everyone simply chooses to ignore me when I correct them. Questions are a thing but everytime all you guys do is assume and never ask me anything or otherwise pay attention. I can't be faulted when people refuse to pay attention when I speak.
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A thread is like a good pile of compost. Every now and again, you have to turn the entire pile after receiving a load of goat manure to keep adequate quality.
Yes, I put that previous conversation in the same category as goat shit, only less helpful in the long run.
We've seen that conversation before, a million times. Lantz has been told often enough, repeatedly, over and over that his character's a, and I quote, mary sue. Whether or not the statement is true, I don't give a fuck since I don't read his fics.
Nothing has changed from it, as Lantz will keep writing Satoshi in all his fics, and nothing will change by having the conversation again. Yet it will happen again, because of reasons I don't care about.
Which is why in Lantz threads, all I do is try to keep Magos from being banned while poking at him with cheetos and neckbeard jokes, because he comes from the same side of town that I do (/tg/) and that means something to me.
In the end, I just want to have a good time, instead of the same conversation ad infinitum.
Yeah, this about sums it up. We don't need to have the same arguments as have been covered over and over again on BL. It's not constructive, especially in a thread like this.
HUM
That reminds me, I should maybe repost hospital bed on darkside for the plebeans who didn't get to read it first time around.
Yeah, definitely.
But yeah, first day of the route nothing big will happen. You understand this, right?
I mean, first day of Fate Saber wasn't even there.
UNLESS you mean first day after he becomes a mastah.
Well, even then I doubt that much would happen in an Ayako route the first day after he became a master, at least with regards to Ayako. Something like that is likely to be more slow to develop, due to her lack of any natural involvement in the Grail War.
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Yeah, well arguments aren't good. Still I feel that the thread is basically ruined after that no matter how much turn over happens
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I think the thread is still fine. Arguments and derails like that happen sometimes.
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He's not in even half of them Names.
I've claimed not to read your fics, I was just quoting earlier in this thread. Maybe you should have commented on that then, instead of now where we're back on topic.
And If you did and I missed it, I'm sorry. I don't like wading through big arguments, nobody does.
Everyone simply chooses to ignore me when I correct them.
Why are you telling me this, I've often told you I just go into your thread to keep Magos from getting banned. I don't care or have questions about your fic.
Questions are a thing but everytime all you guys do is assume and never ask me anything or otherwise pay attention.
Why are you telling me this, I just got here.
I can't be faulted when people refuse to pay attention when I speak.
I'm paying attention right now, and I can tell you that you are venting at the wrong person for this.
Seriously Lantz I have no quarrel with you, it's just that every time THAT conversation happens, you know the one, nothing changes and everyone ends up miserable and angry. I just want a good time.
And to talk about dares on the dare thread. Please stay on topic, please.
Please also don't respond to this because it wouldn't be on topic, please.
Well, even then I doubt that much would happen in an Ayako route the first day after he became a master, at least with regards to Ayako. Something like that is likely to be more slow to develop, due to her lack of any natural involvement in the Grail War.
I actually had something in my first bigger fic, Fate/Second Killer (Which needs a renaming, seriously), in which Ayako gets involved in the supernatural side of things through Ilya, of all people. Shirou was also absent until the grail war, whisked away by his father when younger because Kiritsugu's enemies had found him and were out for blood.
If continued the fic would have gone into Shirou and Ayako teaming up and becoming team protect the loli, which could have been cool. And Sakura lived and got freed from, though had a terrible, tortured time of it, and doesn't exactly come out on top or have a lot of focus during the story. Wouldn't recommend it to you personally, buddy.
But man I enjoyed writing that fic. First big fic, had no cares or worries in the world back then. Maybe I should go back to it.
BUT YEAH ANYWAY
Bringing people into the grail war/supernatural through the usage of other people that are not Shirou. That's something I can do.
ALSO THREAD IS NOT DEAD.
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If continued the fic would have gone into Shirou and Ayako teaming up and becoming team protect the loli, which could have been cool. And Sakura lived and got freed from, though had a terrible, tortured time of it, and doesn't exactly come out on top or have a lot of focus during the story. Wouldn't recommend it to you personally, buddy.
Well, that's something I might be OK with, depending on the nature of the story. I don't mind Sakura not getting a perfect ending as long as she's OK.
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Well, that's something I might be OK with, depending on the nature of the story. I don't mind Sakura not getting a perfect ending as long as she's OK.
See, I remember actually talking to you about this, all those years ago (literally).
The issue you had was with the thing that without Shirou, Sakura remained as she was when Shirou first met her, eyes downcast, hardly speaking and hollow eyes. But in the years without him, this got worse. She's given up, practically just letting the world flow around her. She has no goals, nothing to live for, nobody she wants to be with. Even looking at Rin gave her little reaction.
The story gives her a kick in the behind later to get her moving, once Zouken dies, but she goes in a weird direction with it. She doesn't really reconcile with Rin or become friends with Shirou, she starts doing her own thing.
I remember you being turned off by the entire first idea, and the second one I just figured you wouldn't really like that much seeing as she's alone. Add that to the fact she gets very little focus in the story, maybe as much as fate and UBW put together, including the first few days, with a little more character-defining moments.
But yeah, she definitely ends up OK. Back when I was planning this though, I was fond of completely changing a character's life from anything we've seen, mostly with Ayako, Sakura and Rin. Magus Killer Shirou was done in like, Extra or something?
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Ah, OK.
Yeah, I dunno how much that would appeal to me. I don't remember discussing it, though.
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Ah, OK.
Yeah, I dunno how much that would appeal to me. I don't remember discussing it, though.
In february, it will have happened two years ago.
I really don't blame you for forgetting. I'm actually surprised I remembered.
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Yeah, fair enough. I've discussed quite a lot of fics with people in the past, I'm not overly surprised I've forgotten some....
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Sorry about that, guys, was at work earlier.
Anyway, the reason why I brought the dare up in the first place was for someone to try doing an Ayako route, or at least start one. I realize that Saber didn't show up until Day 3 of all the routes... I really do.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that the dare is for the First Day of the illusive Ayako route, and it's up to Names if he wants to continue it past that. That's all.
Oh, by the way, First Day is the Fate route First Day done with different Ayako flags instead of the other flags.
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I'll see what I can do.
Put that down officially as a yes.
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Thanks for that.
Y'know, to be fair, that would actually be the counterdare for the Super Smash Matou one. You don't have to do it until I'm done with the one you dared me.
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But it could be years!
No seriously, how long ago was it that I dared you that?
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I think it was sometime in the last calendar year... don't remember.
Still, the point I'm trying to make is, I'll get it done before you get started.
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I can work with that.
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Xam that reasoning just saddens me. Well whatever I guess thread is ruined for me anyway so you guys have fun.
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Hey come on lantz,
Don't worry, be happy! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4OnQpwjkc#)
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You heard what Cherry, Names, and Xam said earlier, lantz, just let it drop. The argument was bad for everyone, so let's just let it lie.
And so put the Ayako route dare from Xam to Names and Name's Magos specific dare in the OP then? :)
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Yes, Alice, good idea.
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And updated. :) By the way, if anyone wants me to expand on the descriptions on the dares or change them or anything, just let me know.
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You might want to add this one, since Xamusel is hellbent of giving it to me before I write him anything:
I dare you, Xamusel, to write Zouken playing super smash bros (On the 64) versus Shinji, Sakura and Byakuya(Shinji's dad).
Shinji and Sakura are, naturally, young and very confused as to why their grandfather wants them to play videogames.
Hard Mode: Zouken has to ragequit like a child.
Which was given out the 29 of june 2012, for future reference. Xam...
And as a person who's job literally revolves around doing what old people tell me to do, this is absolutely not OOC for Zouken. I had a lady demand me to do laps around her house and a certain amount of push ups, and to this day I have no idea why. Only theories.
Only theories.
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Gotcha covered. :)
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It's symptomatic of the major issue names. True it's not Xam's fault since he was on the proboards bl, so he's not aware of the eight and a half months I spent turning over every rock in the nasuverse researching Ayako for her route after I had finished Shinji's route. But all the same it's depressing. People don't listen.
Alice I'm not talking about that and for the time being I'd prefer that you don't speak to me.
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It's symptomatic of the major issue names. True it's not Xam's fault since he was on the proboards bl, so he's not aware of the eight and a half months I spent turning over every rock in the nasuverse researching Ayako for her route after I had finished Shinji's route. But all the same it's depressing. People don't listen.
You're going to have to help me out Lantz, I wasn't around on old BL either and I can't see into your head.
Are you unhappy about the fact that you've worked on an Ayako route, and then Xam said "for someone to try doing an Ayako route, or even start one"?
Seriously, you have to confirm or deny this. Initially, this post confused me to the point where I felt I missed a post, because you hadn't even mentioned Ayako until right now. I reread the last three pages looking for it until I realized what was up, only because Xam's dare was on the top of the page where these two latest posts of yours are.
I'm all ears, listening as well as I can. But it would help if you were a little clearer, as well.
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I'm frustrated names. Mad is different from that. I work fairly hard to make the work I do presentable, I have Canon only work but stuff like the previous argument stops me from working on it. I'm annoyed that I keep getting kicked in the shins for participating for no good reason.
Take my dares in example. Did anyone think there might be a reason why I used Satoshi? If so it certainly was not present in the reaction earlier. I'm sick of people assuming. I said the thread is ruined because honestly I don't feel welcome to it. I don't shove my OC in everywhere. I would be happy to start the routes here as I intended if Xam wouldn't mind withdrawing his request and I can be sure I won't get dumped on.
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Xam shouldn't have to withdraw his request just because of that, lantz. He wasn't even aware of what you wrote. Plus people don't own exclusive rights to an idea as broad as "Ayako Route." So don't use the recent incident as an excuse to push Xam out of his dare.
And, again, I said to stop talking about the argument, lantz, and you're not an exception to that. Please take it to PMs if you have to keep talking about it.
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I did not say he had to Alice. I asked if he would, there's quite the difference. I would rather not compete against anyone including myself. I wasn't referring to the argument intentionally. I was trying to answer names question because he asked me to be clear. And I hope I have been.
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I did not say he had to Alice. I asked if he would, there's quite the difference. I would rather not compete against anyone including myself. I wasn't referring to the argument intentionally. I was trying to answer names question because he asked me to be clear. And I hope I have been.
That's still one hell of an entitlement complex Lantz.
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Magos, stop baiting. Seriously.
Lantz, you could have just said the parts about Xam frustrating you by ignoring the existence of the Ayako route you are planning, as that's what I was asking about. All the other stuff is, well, unrelated to the question I'd been asking at the immediate time.
But honestly, I do agree with Alice about this: The concept of an Ayako route is too broad to lay claim on. Even so I know how you write routes and will definitely be going for a different format, for sure. Also keep in mind he also only asked for the first day. There'll be nothing to dump you over.
And I don't think Xamusel should take back his dare. He may have worded it as Ayako Route, but what he wants to see more is interaction between Shirou and Ayako. Had he worded it differently, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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Perhaps names but I felt it better to be as clear as possible. I just don't like the competitive bit, it's not intentionally competitive but splitting attention is the worst thing in my opinion, it's why I write one route at a time as well
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Perhaps names but I felt it better to be as clear as possible. I just don't like the competitive bit, it's not intentionally competitive but splitting attention is the worst thing in my opinion, it's why I write one route at a time as well
Competition in my opinion actually IMPROVES work; it forces you to be at your A game all the time or suffer for it.
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That is your opinion, you have a right to it but not to force it on others.
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Perhaps names but I felt it better to be as clear as possible. I just don't like the competitive bit, it's not intentionally competitive but splitting attention is the worst thing in my opinion, it's why I write one route at a time as well
It doesn't have to be competitive, though. You're not going to be writing the exact same story. There is plenty of room for multiple interpretations of the same thing, especially something that broad.
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If published at the same time it becomes competitive regardless of if the authors wish it to be or not. It's just something that happens, I've seen it happen all the time. So when I can see it coming I avoid it.
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Fair enough. In this case, though, I don't think the idea was to write an Ayako route anyway. As Names said, I think he just wanted some Ayako/Shirou fluff set in a Grail War situation.
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Okay, yeah, I just want to see Shirou/Ayako interactions of the worksafe variety right now. That's why I issued the dare to Names... because he's a fan of Shirou/Ayako and because I wondered how he'd write the story.
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Yes well, earlier I already started redressing caster's route so it doesn't matter now.
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Very well... if you say so.
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Just a matter of timing with it. It makes the issue a non issue as by the time casters route is done the dare will be long over so there'll be no contest present.
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Not arguing that.
Anyway... I'll get to the dare I owe Names soon. I hope it'll be done by Christmas.
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By Christmas?
Never change, Xam. Your realism keeps me on my own two feet.
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...thanks?
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Makes sense to me, between holiday shopping and the like a month sounds like a reasonable time frame.
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I see.
Anyway... yeah. I'll get done with it for sure.
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Okay, I'm going to cast RESURRECT on this thread.
Yay, it was successful!
Anyway, I'm feeling generous. Or slightly uninspired.
So, I will take one dare from someone. However, it will not be first come, first serve. It'll be the dare that interests me the most as the writer.
I will state that I don't want to do something overly long. We're talking one-shot/drabble size here. Just something to get my creative energy flowing and to, you know, contribute.
Plus, I'm feeling slightly generous.
I hope you guys know what I like. :) So, dare me, if you dare. (Just remember I can pick my final dare, but who knows, you'll might get lucky.)
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Well mine are a page or so back, they're in handy list format so they should be easy to spot. Those are the ones I have for the moment.
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Correction they are on page two
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Huzzah! I don't have to worry as much about prodding Cherry for now!
But bleh, what a time to be dry on ideas. >_< However, I may have one for now. I'll try to throw more at the wall later as I get them.
So somehow Rin manages to figure out how to tap into Ruby's power for greater feats of magecraft. Being irritated with the wand anyway for trolling her yet again, she decides to test it by summoning her old Servant again. But not just as he was, oh no. Rin gets cocky and decides to summon him back with a real body. But it goes wrong. Quite wrong. Oh, this is definitely Archer, with a real body too. Just not quite the Archer she remembered....
I can expand on that if you like, and I don't know if it's the best idea I could have come up with or not, but hey, it's a start. :3
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Archer decides that Rin needs to get out of her basement on weekends (magus study) and get some socializing done. To accomplish this, he forged a phone call(I am the bone of my voice acting) to Ayako asking her to hang out, and guilt trips Rin into it; girl needs some R&R.
But while he was walking her to the mall to make sure she actually went to hang out with her friend, he saw Lancer on the lookout for some female attention. He decides to intervene, only for something else to pop up(get creative) as soon as Lancer's been taken care of.
So Archer spends his day making sure Rin is out having uninterrupted fun times.
I dunno, I was just thinking on the spot.
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Nothing's tickled my fancy just yet . . . So, keep going.
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Snowstorm. Archer and Rin are stuck in the house. Archer shovels while Rin stays inside. The wind and stuff slap open some windows, and Rin has tons of trouble closing them. Archer comes in at the right time to see her manage to weld them shut with magic. She looks cold.
Archer wraps her up in a cover. Makes her hot chocolate. Proceed with more window action/cuddling against the cold/whatever.
Snow is cool.
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That is adorably fluffy, but also remember that I do have a taste for dark stuff on occasion.
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It felt warm. Sticky. And it wasn't her own. She'd failed him. She'd failed him as his mentor, and now he was dead. Shirou Emiya was dead. But... why? All Rin knew was that she hadn't been there in time, and that she had seen a feeling figure, dressed in black...
Involves Archer somehow, his role and how he appears is up to you. Rin's/Shirou's ages are also up to you, but probably no earlier than 19 and no later than 25. Summary was probably melodramatic and a bit iffy, but hopefully gets the point across. :)
Again, details, expansions, etc, all available and ready if needed. :3 Let's see if this one works. :D
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Clerical question. Is that a dare for Elf or is that one for the general group?
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It's mainly aimed at Elf for now- if it doesn't end up being her winner though, I may open it up for everyone.
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Same here, really.
As for Elf, here's one suitably dark: Archer gets summoned into a weird situation: Instead of a broken-up room and conveniently chair-shaped rubble, he finds himself summoned in the middle of the park, to a hastily-made summoning circle.
And Rin is being overrun by spiders the size of her abdomen.
In this grail war, people summon phantasmal beasts(Minotaur, Medusa, you know) to fight each other, and Archer somehow qualifies as a CG. He has to rip Rin away from all the spiders and fight his way through monstrosities of all shapes, sizes and varieties to keep both himself and his weakened master alive.
A hard task made worse, because it looks like one of the massive spiders stuck her with some paralytic agent of some kind, so she's dead weight and his prana is draining. And the smaller spiders have a mama, the size of a house.
Basically, Archer+dead weight Rin vs generic monsters until you're satisfied and you get Rin to wake up and certify the servant/master contract.
ARE U A BED ENOFF DUD
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Names, you're evil, you know that?
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And hiring, but only as long as you don't know how stories work.
People who do and get hired by bad guys always end up betraying them to help the good guys. I learn from my predecessors' mistakes.
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Nice way of expanding upon the joke.
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Oh, thanks.
Sure it wasn't a bit too long as a follow-up, though?
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Nah, not really, it was just right for the circumstance.
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Alright, cool. I was worried I'd overdone it.
So, how's that dare going?
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Thanks for reminding me... however, if I were to look back on the writing for the dare, I'd probably wonder about my writing level.
Besides, I'm on my Desktop right now, and the dare's on my Laptop.
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Don't worry about your level, you'll naturally get better over time, checking your grammar and rethinking your wording.
Oh, and not giving up.
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Indeed.