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Why did I add this, or why can he do it?

I added it because I wanted to make one particular shadow my Minato's bitch, it put me Minato through a lot of suffering and it sort of amuses me to degrade it in such a way.

He can do it because, and I put this in the profile, Minato's soul absorbed part of Death; He gained roughly the same amount of inhumanity from Death as Death gained in Humanity from him, that is where all three of those powers come from.

It was the Guard Dog I mentioned in several posts in IC, taking it out would mean another retcon as well. If needed I will make a sheet for The Reaper and use up one of my character slots, I just would rather not if I don't have to.

It is one of the things that lets Minato keep such a large area relatively safe.

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Profile updated.

Not done yet just giving a progress report.

NEW!
Time space dorm is being partially retconed. Partly because everyone else hated it, partly because I just like my travel method from 1.0 better. So it is now exclusively in Minato's district. The lengthening hallways and self furnishing rooms will stay, along with the treasure room and armory, the kitchen, and the basement. The moves between eight places and kaleidoscope space on the roof are being axed.

NEW!
Time space powers are being changed from vague can do whatever power into three definite powers with defined limits.

These powers are:
Dark Moment - Allows Minato to make time space hiccup for about half a second once per night. Eg. Make one second take half a second longer. Might disrupt some kinds of things, it's up to all of you if it does anything to your characters and their tricks or not.

Hall of Doors - Brings back my door travel method from 1.0...
that's it, that's all it does.

Shadow Vassal - This is the one I expect to be hearing about; So yeah Minato can now make exactly one shadow follow his commands. This has more limits than the other two:

1. Minato can only control shadows of the same arcana as him.
2. Minato can only give up to three simple commands to it, once given the orders cannot be changed or revoked.
3. Minato can only control one shadow, to control a new shadow the old one has to die.

NEW!
Some of the Inherent attributes have been added. The wild card ones will all have only one each, the three fixed ones were special for obvious reasons.

Now before people start complaining about me adding things to personae, most of the Inherent Attributes are useless or near useless in combat; The few that are will be either minor or have usage limits to prevent me from abusing them.

I will also note that I have made every effort to have the abilities fit the theme of the persona or the story they came from to some degree.

Remaining to-do:
Add revised dorm info.
Put Inherent attributes on the Personae that don't have any yet.
Add post arrival info to Minato's history.

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To be clear, most of what I am doing is putting in things I had planned to reveal later Now because hiding or failing to mention things is bad and does not work I have learned, adding information and descriptions that have been discussed as I need to and have basically been asked to, as well as applying hard limits (and Nerf Foam) to some (read:A LOT) of his powers including the ones I had yet to reveal.


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Editing in progress, this time I will put in everything I have yet to (with lots of notes consulting) and I will listen to questions and suggestions after it's done.
This will take a few days but I will still post in IC if my turn comes around.

On the agenda:

1. Finish adding Inherent attributes to Personae.
2. Add info on time space powers with explanation on how he has/can control them (will likely split TS manipulation lesser power into a few fixed greater powers to prevent future playability issues).
3. Add description of the dorm and it's properties (Finalize dorm attributes).
4. Add info on Minato's backstory from after his arrival in the nexus (Make a final decision on how long he has been there).
5. Add miscellaneous bits and pieces that I just forgot to put in the last two times.

I will post here once I am done so if you look and see changes, don't start in on me till I post that I'm done here.

Though I will make it clear beforehand that I am fully aware of the fact that I have given Minato abilities that he does not demonstrate in canon. This was not based on misunderstanding, and I do not claim that he can do any of these things in canon. As such, any reasoning I give for his abilities do not constitute canon or my belief of canon, they are only validations for the purpose of this RP.

In addition, some of the abilities I have given him are based on logical expansion of existing traits, others were created from attributes he possesses in canon that simply did not give him any new power before; A few I added for little reason other than that I felt like it.

So if your complaint is "He can't do this in canon" my answer is and will continue to be: "I am aware, I put it in anyway, I tried to make it make sense. Let me know if something needs better explaining."

This will be the last round so if I forget to add anything then that will be something he just won't have, and if anyone declines to comment this round, then you missed your chance. I will not be doing another edit after this round unless a GM orders me to.

I do ask again, do not start in on me till I post here that I am done, whatever you may see is not certain to be there when you finish the post to gripe about it; I am telling you this now so you don't waste your time.

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Too Meta. And the Strix have always been there. They just don't always show themselves. When calamity comes, the Owls come ahead of it, a Harbinger of disaster to come. With a possible demon apocalypse on the end, plus the Grail, they're being attracted in numbers because to them this is like a god damn dinner show. Plus, if he ever met one, I doubt he'd KNOW or have been even able to hit it before it decided he'd make a nice host, possessed him, and gone fucking apeshit with him because it can until his body rots to dust, in approximately 2 weeks or so. They'd probably not attack. They don't attack as much as take what they want. And what they want can be anything from a body to seeing someone commit suicide to just talking.

Fucking hell you're going full on Satoshi with Minato, Kurogami.

Alright then, that answers that. Too meta to know to use fire, no chance of having met one before.

No I am not, If I was going the Satoshi route I would have teleported into the bedroom in full battle gear and immediately overkilled it with a top tier fire spell without asking. Instead I have still done nothing and I instead asked questions in OOC to find out if it was feasible for Minato to intervene, which I now know that it isn't so I will do nothing.

To everyone else I know I have issues with explaining, I try to explain things as they come up because there are a lot of things I don't think to put in the sheet, which is one of the reasons why I edit it so much. I have taken some liberties with my Minato, but I try not put in anything that I cannot give an explanation for.

I will however mention that Minato did not have an easy time against that dragon, he nearly died several times over and spent more time healing himself than fighting.

And now I will definitely be starting another round of sheet edits tomorrow.

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Kurogami clearly is starting to lantz his char.

My Mage in making might have pretty versatile Awakened Magic that bends reality to his will, but I'm sure to add weaknesses that in practice makes spamming magic and doing something too blatantly magic a dangerous proposition (Paradox backslash).

With Minato's time space control there is the issue of requiring long stretches of time (In the order 6 hours to several days, or shorter periods over weeks.) to do anything remotely significant with (I made a room slightly bigger!), and just because people seem to still have problems with it, I will add to that and say that the nexus supresses that and the only thing he can use time space power on is himself, the dorm, and things in the dorm.

I guess something I forgot to ask.

Why is this old man even doing this? What is his motivation? Why did he even pick Minato other than apparently being nice? How does he even have all these connections and influence?

I will be making a sheet for this guy eventually so most of his story will have to wait but his motivation can be summed up as a split between his ambition to bring peace to as much of the nexus as possible, and his own amusement. His interest in Minato started when he was saved a huge chunk of trouble by Minato destroying a rather violent feral dragon that had gone on a rampage.

The Abyss of Time was totally made by the SEES members' personae over six months, it also facilitates time travel. That is practically half of the plot of The Answer.

When the phenomena of Dark Hour and Tartarus was created, Tartarus, growing out of the ground each night eventually left a great cove underneath its roots. Following the death of the Protagonist, the Abyss of Time was attracted by SEES' grief and sorrow and spread its influence there, rooting down below the dorm. Eventually the Abyss of Time would become active, locking SEES in an infinite time loop where the time will re-reset itself whenever the clock hits 12:00 A.M., leaving time forever frozen on March 31.


Yeah my bad, I looked back over my notes and found that I had misremenbered a few things. I do not intend on taking out a bunch of things but I do want to try to be able to do the things I want to do without trampling lore too much. I actually have a better explanation in my notes that I will put in during my next edit.

I believe it's pretty much the equivalent to Kindred sucking blood that the Hunter is doing right now.

Also, the point with Strige that makes them so hard to deal with is precisely that normally very few things can hurt it, except for its Banes. That would be Fire and Sunlight plus whatever other Bane the Strix has acquired if it's been around long enough.

So, say, if it didn't use the Twilight Form power, a sword that can cut spirits still wouldn't be able to hurt it (unless it was specifically enchanted to hurt Strix by Blood Sorcery), but a shotgun with Dragon's Breath would because it's fire. And it doesn't matter if that fire is of supernatural or mundane origin, it is complete anathema to them.

Right, I get it. The question now becomes, would it be too meta for Minato to know to use fire, normally I would say yes it is and leave it but the city is apparently full of them so my line of questioning becomes;

Are the strix as a whole recent or have they been in the city over a long period?

If they have been here a long time what are the chances of Minato having run into them before?

And if he attacked them would they flee before he cycled through the other elements and tried fire?

I will not interfere this time but I want to know just in case it comes up again later.

Soreness and slight anemia, based on what YOLF said in the chat.

If that is all I will just have Minato heal the problem away at breakfast if Mike wants me to.

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Minato's sword is a holy grail beam saber, that I specified can cut whatever Minato wants it to, so I should hope it does a little more than base sword damage.

"It can cut whatever its wielder wants to" is the fucking most retarded power in this entire RP, exceeding even Minato's Armageddon, because there's a lot of fucking things in this RP you can't cut.

Space time dorm is called that because it is technically in eight places at once; But for practical purposes the dorm is in none of the places unless someone opens the front door at which point it's position becomes fixed in one of the places for a short time.

I have mentioned this before too.

To put it simply if someone who is not allowed tries to enter the dorm, it would almost definitely fix itself somewhere else. This is not infallible, someone with time space abilities could get around it, and someone with high enough luck could just walk right in thanks to simply turning the odds in their favor. Probability manipulation would also work.

Flying in through a window with no luck stat, no time space skill, no probability alteration, and no talking to me beforehand definitely does not work.  >:(

If you want people to respect your speshul magic thing that Minato shouldn't even have to begin with, then fucking list it in your character sheet instead of going "Oh you can't do X because my speshul thing I never listed prevents you from doing so."

Though I am having trouble not laughing at the concept of a persona protag not being able to kill a shadow. Probably a different sort of shadow but the thought is still hilarious.

>Implying Shadows are actually made of shadows and not negative emotions. Jesus christ, did you even play the game?


That being said, I would like to know if Almighty, the damage attribute with the property of doing damage to everything, would affect your shadow bird. I ask partly out of base curiosity.

Almighty can do damage to anything, sure, doesn't mean it can actually hit. Strixes are immaterial and immune to things to things that hit immaterial things. Basically it's like trying to hit a hologram.

The Abyss of Time was totally made by the SEES members' personae over six months, it also facilitates time travel. That is practically half of the plot of The Answer.

No, it was made by POWUH OFFU FRIENDSHIP YAMATO SPIRIT, something which doesn't exist in CE.

Ok so in order.

Yeah I was more venting annoyance than seriously arguing at that point in the conversation, but yeah it doesn't really cut everything I actually took that out during my last big sheet edit.

I was already planning to add info on the dorm to my sheet for referencing during my next edit, so I can stop having to explain it over again everytime it comes up.

I was commenting on the irony, Minato is a shadow killing specialist that can't hurt a shadow, it is humorous in that this IS a different kind of shadow and his advantage is nonexistent against it.

Gah, my greatest weakness, megido's shitty hit rate. Attacks six enemies, misses five. how does that even work? Repeat, hits two, ugh. I get better results from base mudo.

I have no reply to that last part.

I will make my next round of edits this week most likely so please hold while my character becomes yet again a little more tolerable.

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The Abyss of Time was totally made by the SEES members' personae over six months, it also facilitates time travel. That is practically half of the plot of The Answer.

Personae are in the end just tamed shadows, only much much stronger. Their properties do not change so significantly in becoming personae.

Time travel is coincidentally one of the two things I am explicitly banned from doing, the other being any form of in combat teleportation.

 I personally set limits on time space fuckery as well, it takes long stretches of time and uninterrupted concentration to do anything with it, like hours and days. Which is likely the reason there are so few other stipulations on it, there is no practical way to make significant use of it after the game started, it takes too long to get useful results.

That being said, I would like to know if Almighty, the damage attribute with the property of doing damage to everything, would affect your shadow bird. I ask partly out of base curiosity.

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Personas can alter and warp time space according to the user's wishes, a small number of them were able to produce a dimensional labyrinth and time travel over a period of six months. Minato in reality has more than a small number of persona.

He made a mistake while trying to figure out how to control this ability and the current state of things is the result, he has not attempted anything near as large scale since.

The chance is not one in eight, the chances are far lower than that, but I am not going to demand that you delete your post or anything, I am going to roll with it and use this as an excuse to let Thanatos play around in Minato's body, a bullshitty idea I came up with just now.

Please don't try to tell me that almighty won't work.

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Minato's sword is a holy grail beam saber, that I specified can cut whatever Minato wants it to, so I should hope it does a little more than base sword damage.

Space time dorm is called that because it is technically in eight places at once; But for practical purposes the dorm is in none of the places unless someone opens the front door at which point it's position becomes fixed in one of the places for a short time.

I have mentioned this before too.

To put it simply if someone who is not allowed tries to enter the dorm, it would almost definitely fix itself somewhere else. This is not infallible, someone with time space abilities could get around it, and someone with high enough luck could just walk right in thanks to simply turning the odds in their favor. Probability manipulation would also work.

Flying in through a window with no luck stat, no time space skill, no probability alteration, and no talking to me beforehand definitely does not work.  >:(

Though I am having trouble not laughing at the concept of a persona protag not being able to kill a shadow. Probably a different sort of shadow but the thought is still hilarious.

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Will an all cutting sword of light hurt him? or Light magic?

Another question, what kind of ridiculous luck check did he pass to get into the dorm and not just find himself in an empty building like nearly any other uninvited guest would?

In case you are wondering I am slightly irritated that you decided to undermine my dorm without so much as a post in my general direction.

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You do know you just flew your shadow being into the absolute worst place for anything shadowy to be right?

His self preservation instinct is shit.

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And with that we have food.

Who's hungry?

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Day 2

When Arisato Minato awoke at ten am his first feeling was annoyance, could his body not let him sleep in anymore?

Not like you even need sleep anymore.

My MIND doesn't need sleep anymore, but my body has yet to catch up, so yes I do still need sleep.

Realizing that it would be futile to try to go back to sleep Minato went downstairs and headed for the kitchen to prepare a morning meal for his guests.

Within a half hour the dorm had begun to fill with the smell of eggs, fried ham and bacon, and freshly brewed coffee.

All these things were set, piled high on their platters, on the dining room table along with a pitcher of fresh orange juice.

Minato then proceeded to load up a plate and take a seat at the table to wait, with the smell of breakfast in the air someone would come down soon.

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I thought I was waiting on you; Rider and Kiyo went towards the stairs but never got to a room last I read. Did I miss a post, or were you planning to just skip to morning?

Either way I will start on my morning post now.

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