Dark Side of the Moon
Unlimited Creativity Works => Role Playing => Topic started by: Arch-Magos Winter on November 06, 2013, 04:07:17 PM
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So I was wondering if any forum goers would mind or have an interest in playing one of the New World of Darkness lines. What is the World of Darkness you may ask? Good question, I'll give you a quick history and explanation.
The World of Darkness was started back over 2 decades ago, by a company known as White Wolf. This is the Old World of Darkness, the classic gamelines that started it all, which still has many fans and LARP (Live Action Roleplaying) events even to this day. It's also sometimes called the Classic World of Darkness. An RPG using a rather unusual system for the time, it quickly found it's niche in the then starting trend of Urban Fantasy. It included a rather rich lore that accumulated over the years, and borrowed, changed, and played with many urban fantasy concepts while introducing a few of its own. This is the world of Vampire: The Masquerade, Werewolf: The Apocalypse, and Mage: The Ascension. Supernaturals existed in the world, often at odds with humanity as a whole or simply outright dangerous to everyone.
Mind you, the Old World had it's troubles. The system was still somewhat clunky and just starting to define itself, the metaplot eventually got flat out insane (Mages with orbital laser satellites killing a vampiric ancestor figure, the world was going to end in about fifty different ways etc. etc.), a few of the gamelines just never... well, worked, the internal balance was rather crazy and the figures for all the supernaturals made the average human actually rather rare. Other games besides the big three in this line were: Hunter: The Reckoning (Supernaturally gifted humans hunting monsters. Never really did much besides that and didn't really fit in it's supposed niche), Wraith: The Oblivion (A rather interesting game concept wise due to it's disconnect with the rest of the lines, mainly focusing on the politics and realm of human ghosts. Also has some flat out crazy awesome fluff details) , Changeling: The Dreaming (Pretty much universally agreed among the fanbase of both the Old and New type to be the worst book of the line. It's basically about people with fairy souls and dragon souls and shit and how they're all perfect and special but the world doesn't listen and is becoming dreary without them), Mummy the... I forgot the subtitle which is embarrassing as I actually own this book and haven't read it yet, and Demon the Fallen (About as Schizophrenic as Mummy and Changeling in tone and without a really defining concept.) which are all I can remember off the top of my head.
If you want to learn more about the Old World of Darkness, I recommend either finding the books or buying Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines off of Steam, though it needs a 3rd party patch to work beyond Vista. Bloodlines is pretty much a cult classic of a game and for good reason: It's the first released title to use the Source engine (Really, it dropped before Valve first published a game using the engine) has a compelling plot and mechanics that both honor the original game and pay homage to the World of Darkness at large. Worth the price
Anyway, eventually White Wolf sorta realized they needed to reboot the setting and fix the mechanics. Thus, the New World of Darkness was born. Compared to the old, it has a pretty much optional and non-existent minor metaplot. There's a LOT of passive aggressive feelings between the fanbases of both over which is superior fluffwise (Except on the matter of Changeling, the New version is pretty much unanimously agreed to be far, far better), mechanically wise, and gameline wise. The New World keeps the classic three lines of the Old World, but puts a new spin and system behind them. Vampire: the Requiem, Werewolf: The Forsaken, and Mage: The Awakening all spearhead the New World. The changes in each line are rather minor in most ways aside from the fluff (And with basically the ENTIRETY OF NEW WEREWOLF), but where the New World truly defines itself is in its secondary splats. Hunter: The Vigil (Think Supernatural mixed with Hobo With a Shotgun. Hunters for the most part now have no supernatural powers or abilities, aside from knowing the supernatural exists), Changeling: The Lost (Changelings changed from Otherkin to Abuse Victims of the True Fae. I love the fluff for this game, it's just plain awesome and a callback to every old folktale out there), Promethean: The Created (Interesting concept wise, about artificial humans trying to become a real boy, but really, really, hard to justify playing), Geist: the Sin Eaters (Wraith's spiritual successor... and just like Promethean, is not really popular, despite being friendlier campaign wise), Mummy the Curse (Haven't read the book fully, but pretty sweet from what I have read) and the upcoming Demon: the Decent (Linked into the God Machine Chronicles, the nWoD's rules overhaul. You're basically Agent Smith.)
Now after all that, you're probably thinking "So Magos, what's the point of that infodump?" Well, here's why: From what I can tell, most of our people in the RP forum are freeformers, and this is where I come in. World of Darkness is excellent in the fact that it lends itself well to transitioning from freeforming to table top play, or to giving freeform a set of mechanics behind it. I'm more than willing to run a game of pretty much any of the new world of darkness lines for you guys. Play by post really doesn't work for a system like this though, as it's far far too slow. So, I'll be likely hosting a campaign on either an IRC channel or on Roll 20. But first, I want to gauge an interest in this before I figure out which line to run.
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So, basically, it's an urban fantasy RPG with a whole lot of different campaigns?
I'm interested. Will need details for character creation, but yeah. Let's do this.
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So, basically, it's an urban fantasy RPG with a whole lot of different campaigns?
I'm interested. Will need details for character creation, but yeah. Let's do this.
Basically! Each line/splat contains a different set of rules for each type of supernatural. The system remains the same between all of them so they're interchangeable... but the balance is all types of messed up.
As for character creation, I can send you a PDF of the core book we'll be using. After that, we'll slap a supernatural template on it. And boom. Instant character. For that matter I've found that walking new players through it is generally the best thing to do.
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I'm interested. :) As for the PDF, will you be linking us to it, or will you be sending each of the players a copy via PM or something similar?
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I'm interested. :) As for the PDF, will you be linking us to it, or will you be sending each of the players a copy via PM or something similar?
PM. We'll also need to decide on a splat and time to run.
I'm running a Vampire game at the moment actually, I'll probably storytime some of that in here.
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OH!
And I should probably help you all out with Character creation. Some aspects can be a little odd at first.
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Interested! After what happened with Shadowrun last time, I'm itching to get into a proper roleplay again.
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Interested! After what happened with Shadowrun last time, I'm itching to get into a proper roleplay again.
Yeah, sorry about that.
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Yeah, sorry about that.
Actually, I should be the one apologizing. From what I remember I just stopped showing up at the allotted times, so it's kinda my fault.
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Alright, so we've got three interested parties. What gameline are you all most interested in?
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Man, if I didn't have a weird assed schedule, I'd love to do this.
Kirean on BL actually drafted Forest up as a playable WoD vampire for shits and giggles for me a while back.
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Man, if I didn't have a weird assed schedule, I'd love to do this.
Kirean on BL actually drafted Forest up as a playable WoD vampire for shits and giggles for me a while back.
I have a weird ass schedule as well, shouldn't be too hard do work around.
Was the sheet done for Requiem or for Masquerade?
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If I understand the text dump at the start of this thread the game is supposedly set based on the new world of darkness. Am I correct?
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If I understand the text dump at the start of this thread the game is supposedly set based on the new world of darkness. Am I correct?
Uh, no. I'm actually running a New World of Darkness game. And I'm looking for players.
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That is what I just said
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That is what I just said
I can't tell what you're trying to say like 80% of the time so cut me some slack.
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I have a weird ass schedule as well, shouldn't be too hard do work around.
Was the sheet done for Requiem or for Masquerade?
I think it was done for Requiem if I remember correctly.
She was one of the artsy, pretty vampires. No Nosferatu or Bruja for Fore.
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I have a weird ass schedule as well, shouldn't be too hard do work around.
Was the sheet done for Requiem or for Masquerade?
I think it was done for Requiem if I remember correctly.
She was one of the artsy, pretty vampires. No Nosferatu or Bruja for Fore.
A Daeva?
I see he didn't read Requiem for Rome. Judging by her age and ethnicity, she'd likely be a Gangrel actually, perhaps a Ventrue (Though I once again question that considering the Ventrue were unknown until after the Camarilla fell, and most speculate they're a bloodline of the Julii that managed to supercede the actual clan). Daeva originated in the middle east (Specifically in the Persian ethnic and geographical region) and Gangrel are celtic and germanic in origin. And honestly, I think Gangrel suits her better. Wild, free, take shit from nobody attitude.
EDIT - Judging by the backstory, Julii. So she's actually a Ventrue. Likely of the Rötgrafen bloodline, through adoption.
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I suppose if no one objects, we'll be doing Hunter, or maybe Geist. Either or.
Edit... OR, you'll all start out as Mortals and the actual gameline will be a surprise. That sound fun?
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Edit... OR, you'll all start out as Mortals and the actual gameline will be a surprise. That sound fun?
My first time playing a more-than-one-session game of DnD, our DM totally had us thinking that we'd be playing a with really basic game plot since he said he was new at the whole DMing thing.
We ended up playing tabletop game of thrones, with a world just as complicated and in-depth. Guy never DMed before, but he really knew his shit. I rerolled characters three times. Still the best DnD game I've ever played.
Bottom line unexpected is good, go with this.
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Edit... OR, you'll all start out as Mortals and the actual gameline will be a surprise. That sound fun?
My first time playing a more-than-one-session game of DnD, our DM totally had us thinking that we'd be playing a with really basic game plot since he said he was new at the whole DMing thing.
We ended up playing tabletop game of thrones, with a world just as complicated and in-depth. Guy never DMed before, but he really knew his shit. I rerolled characters three times. Still the best DnD game I've ever played.
Bottom line unexpected is good, go with this.
Alright. If you need help with Character creation, I have set up an IRC channel on Rizon at #CCHelp
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So wait, are there any limitations or things we need to be aware of when making a character, or can we just go crazy and make whatever's in the rulebook?
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So wait, are there any limitations or things we need to be aware of when making a character, or can we just go crazy and make whatever's in the rulebook?
0 XP characters. That's it.
Otherwise? Go nuts.
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Another quick statement - we need to figure out a time for everyone when they can (usually) make a session.
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I'm good for tuesday afternoons, and sundays.
And that's pretty much it. I've been takin' care of business, one could say.
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I'm good for tuesday afternoons, and sundays.
And that's pretty much it. I've been takin' care of business, one could say.
Ouch. Tricky, but I can work it.
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I'm usually good any night except Tuesday and Thursday nights.
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While it might change in the future, I'm usually available any night of the week.
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So it looks like Sunday nights are game nights.
Also, as promised, Vampire Storytime: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=vampire%2C+storytime (http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=vampire%2C+storytime)
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What's this about vampires?
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What's this about vampires?
I was a player in that campaign. Check it out.
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Sunday is today, and Sunday night is tonight. And what is Sunday night? Game night.
Where and when?
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Hopefully I can get my sheet done before game time, I only have it partly done because of all the stuff going on. ^_^" ...I still feel kinda bad about all that, so Magos can penalize my character for it by having her leg start out broken or something.
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Sunday is today, and Sunday night is tonight. And what is Sunday night? Game night.
Where and when?
Six Mountain Standard Time, it will be on Roll 20. I'm PMing you all the link, so when you get an account set up there, just click on it and you will be able to join the game. Simple as that.
Alice, what I'll do is give you a derangement. A minor one, but hey, could be worse.
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Derangement (as in not sure what that is)? But it's fine, it's what I get for taking this long :) - I've just had a lot of stuff going on recently.
Also, I'm available to finish with the sheet I think.
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Derangement? But it's fine, it's what I get for taking this long :) - I've just had a lot of stuff going on recently.
Also, I'm available to finish with the sheet I think.
Sweet, I'll hop into the IRC.
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I have a family gathering thing tomorrow, so while I should make it back in time for the game, if I don't, that's why. At worst though, hopefully I'll only be an hour or two late.
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I have a family gathering thing tomorrow, so while I should make it back in time for the game, if I don't, that's why. At worst though, hopefully I'll only be an hour or two late.
No problem.
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Hmm, would you guys be able to move the time forward a couple of hours? If you can I could probably join in.
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Hmm, would you guys be able to move the time forward a couple of hours? If you can I could probably join in.
Depends. Might be able to, but what really matters is the others.
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Yeah, that's why I asked in the thread rather than by PMing you....
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Time-wise I'm the same as always for now. What 'bout everyone else?
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Well, 8 PM on Sundays is already pretty late as it is. If we moved it past 12, that would definitely conflict with those of us who have classes the morning after (AKA me).
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I'm wondering if we could push it back to saturday, but that could conflict with Alice's planned D&D game.
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Nah, don't worry 'bout it. That's still all getting set up, so as far as I'm concerned for the moment, this game comes first time-wise right now. :) Now it's just a matter of seeing if everyone can get on on Saturdays, and if so, then I think we're golden. :3
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Well, 8 PM on Sundays is already pretty late as it is. If we moved it past 12, that would definitely conflict with those of us who have classes the morning after (AKA me).
Yeah, I meant to move it earlier, not later.
Nah, don't worry 'bout it. That's still all getting set up, so as far as I'm concerned for the moment, this game comes first time-wise right now. :) Now it's just a matter of seeing if everyone can get on on Saturdays, and if so, then I think we're golden. :3
Well, I would like to play your game.
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Well saturday should be fine, as long as Alice is chill with it, but moving it earlier on sunday would be okay as long as everyone is able to make it.
Though there's always the whole unexpected working aspect to me (weather-based, most of the time), so if it's too early on sunday then I might be finishing up work and can't be there for a while.
Doesn't help that apparently I work the always shift now. 7/7 days of work this week, jesus. I'm dying. 6:30am to 8:30pm, I'm fucking dead.
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I'm chill with it. :3 Like I said, we're still working out the details on the D&D thing, so it's coo.
Also.... D: Holy crap man, make sure to take some rest. Hope things let up on you soon. :(
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Tomorrow it is then, and we'll switch to Saturdays about an hour earlier.
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I'll be out shoveling, so I might be late.
Also, just making sure, are we starting early today with Mike?
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I don't have a character yet, so I don't think so.
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We can get through a character in like, 10 minutes. Don't worry about it.
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Well, I haven't even started thinking about it yet, so I doubt it, and I wasn't intending to play tonight. I would happily just wait until next week.
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Then might as well get it done now.
Get a roll20 account up and I'll help you get a character together mechanically, fluff him later.
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Well, the mechanics tie into the sort of character I want, honestly. I would rather wait and think about it, I'm pretty tired right now because I never had much sleep last night.
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Well, the mechanics tie into the sort of character I want, honestly. I would rather wait and think about it, I'm pretty tired right now because I never had much sleep last night.
I can give you a premade if you really want to play though. Just saying.
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Wait, so we've got a session tonight, right?
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Correct Bloble. In an hour or two.
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Well, the mechanics tie into the sort of character I want, honestly. I would rather wait and think about it, I'm pretty tired right now because I never had much sleep last night.
I can give you a premade if you really want to play though. Just saying.
Nah, I'm fine. I'd rather just join next week. I'm tired enough that I'll probably want to get to bed pretty soon anyway.
Also, next week I can actually do your normal time, since I'm not at work the day after. After that I'll need it to be earlier, though.
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We still need to work on a character though. Just saying.
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Yeah, but I don't see why it needs to be done tonight.
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Yeah, but I don't see why it needs to be done tonight.
It doesn't, but I'd rather get it done now so I can work on the plot with you in mind for tonight.
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Hmm, I see.
I really don't feel like doing it right now, though. You know the sort of character I'm likely to want, I already explained that to you, but I don't really know the details and I won't be able to work them out today, I'm just too tired.
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You just gave me a two word thing, I can't do shit with that currently.
I just need a short concept detail so I can flesh it out a little.
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Yeah, but I don't have that right now and my brain is not working enough to really think of it. Plus, I've not even read the books yet, and I've forgotten whatever I did know about the setting. So I can't imagine working something out is going to be quick.
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We can do what I did and do it in stages, I think. It's a good idea that if we do it tonight, we start now anyway, because I just learned that I might have to go to something soonish tonight that I didn't have any warning of prior to this, so I might get dragged off in the middle of the game tonight anyway, so we might be able to kill two birds with one stone with that by getting two things arranged at once.
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I really don't want to do it tonight, though. I'm feeling really tired and trying to work this out is going to take quite a while I would imagine, because I've not even so much as read the books yet.
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We can do what I did and do it in stages, I think. It's a good idea that if we do it tonight, we start now anyway, because I just learned that I might have to go to something soonish tonight that I didn't have any warning of prior to this, so I might get dragged off in the middle of the game tonight anyway, so we might be able to kill two birds with one stone with that by getting two things arranged at once.
>No warning
I did state that it'd be today yesterday. My bad about the week before that 'cuz finals.
I really don't want to do it tonight, though. I'm feeling really tired and trying to work this out is going to take quite a while I would imagine, because I've not even so much as read the books yet.
It's just a simple real world setting - for you to start with at least. Just create a modern day setting character. We'll start from there.
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We can do what I did and do it in stages, I think. It's a good idea that if we do it tonight, we start now anyway, because I just learned that I might have to go to something soonish tonight that I didn't have any warning of prior to this, so I might get dragged off in the middle of the game tonight anyway, so we might be able to kill two birds with one stone with that by getting two things arranged at once.
>No warning
I did state that it'd be today yesterday. My bad about the week before that 'cuz finals.
She didn't mean no warning from you, she meant no warning of the thing she has to do.
I really don't want to do it tonight, though. I'm feeling really tired and trying to work this out is going to take quite a while I would imagine, because I've not even so much as read the books yet.
It's just a simple real world setting - for you to start with at least. Just create a modern day setting character. We'll start from there.
Hmm, OK, well, I do have a thought. Alice showed me her character sheet, and I thought that a somewhat eccentric professor or something like that might work. Again, I don't have a detailed character yet, and the rank might vary, but that's a decent starting point.
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We've got a Teaching Assistant (Bloble), a Student(Alice) and a Cop(Nachos).
It doesn't HAVE to be connected to the college, trust me, I'll figure out a way to get you involved.
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>No warning
I did state that it'd be today yesterday. My bad about the week before that 'cuz finals.
No no, I meant I had no warning about having to go out to my grandma's tonight until basically this evening. I knew about the game tonight.
Speaking of which, I'm going to have to leave for that soon anyway. I'm not sure how long I'll be gone for, there's never a set time for this stuff... So I probably won't be able to help as it is anyway. What you guys want to start doing tonight on the sheet/game front is up to you.
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>No warning
I did state that it'd be today yesterday. My bad about the week before that 'cuz finals.
No no, I meant I had no warning about having to go out to my grandma's tonight until basically this evening. I knew about the game tonight.
Speaking of which, I'm going to have to leave for that soon anyway. I'm not sure how long I'll be gone for, there's never a set time for this stuff... So I probably won't be able to help as it is anyway. What you guys want to start doing tonight on the sheet/game front is up to you.
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I guess I can work with Mike really quick then on a character. Mike, do you have AIM?
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We've got a Teaching Assistant (Bloble), a Student(Alice) and a Cop(Nachos).
It doesn't HAVE to be connected to the college, trust me, I'll figure out a way to get you involved.
Yeah, I didn't think up that because I wanted to be connected to the college, that's just an obvious character design for me. I didn't even know the story was based around a college before you just said it.
Honestly, if you ask me for a modern-world character then that's what I'm going to come up with, if you want something else I'll have to think about it more because that is just the obvious choice for me.
>No warning
I did state that it'd be today yesterday. My bad about the week before that 'cuz finals.
No no, I meant I had no warning about having to go out to my grandma's tonight until basically this evening. I knew about the game tonight.
Speaking of which, I'm going to have to leave for that soon anyway. I'm not sure how long I'll be gone for, there's never a set time for this stuff... So I probably won't be able to help as it is anyway. What you guys want to start doing tonight on the sheet/game front is up to you.
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I guess I can work with Mike really quick then on a character. Mike, do you have AIM?
I don't really want to do this now. I am really tired, and I think I am going to go to bed soon.
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Dammit Mike...
And no, it isn't set around the college. I mean, focusing around the college, the fact that we had two characters that were students was a total coincidence.
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Well, OK, but my point still stands. If you want a different idea for character design then you're going to have to give me longer to think of one. My brain is not working enough to think of something that doesn't come as a natural choice to me.
And, I've told you about five times now that I don't want to do this tonight. Please stop pestering me to do so, my brain is not working well enough right now. I came up with a basic idea for you, if that idea isn't acceptable then that's not my fault. I am not awake enough to think of anything else.
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Professor is fine, never mind, just get some sleep and I can pick up the details in a bit.
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Yeah, sorry, but I was at a friend's for the weekend and I got about 5 hours sleep on a sofa of which I slept not-much, after a week of not-much sleep and going out the night before. I'm just not awake enough to do this right now.
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Well, I just got back from work right now (11:30 here) and I checked the roll20 page and we weren't happening.
Which is funny because the entire time I was pissed I was going to miss game night because the fucking plow was three hours late, three hours being about how late I am to the game.
So... next sunday? Or does everyone have a little christmas break freedom and we can have a random week session to make up?
EDIT: Also, I noticed YOLF was on the peoples list on roll20. He joining? That's coo
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Was readin' up on you lot's campaign! Still only read part of first session, and I have to say I like the group.
I might be convinced to drop by some time for a guest appearance or something since I have some free time until mid January.
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Well, I just got back from work right now (11:30 here) and I checked the roll20 page and we weren't happening.
Which is funny because the entire time I was pissed I was going to miss game night because the fucking plow was three hours late, three hours being about how late I am to the game.
So... next sunday? Or does everyone have a little christmas break freedom and we can have a random week session to make up?
EDIT: Also, I noticed YOLF was on the peoples list on roll20. He joining? That's coo
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'twas more that you didn't show and Alice didn't show, so we sorta called it off.
We're switching times to Saturdays Names, and an hour early. So enjoy that one. You get it far far earlier.
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Was readin' up on you lot's campaign! Still only read part of first session, and I have to say I like the group.
I might be convinced to drop by some time for a guest appearance or something since I have some free time until mid January.
Nice
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'twas more that you didn't show and Alice didn't show, so we sorta called it off.
We're switching times to Saturdays Names, and an hour early. So enjoy that one. You get it far far earlier.
double nice
night all
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Good night, sweet prince
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Was readin' up on you lot's campaign! Still only read part of first session, and I have to say I like the group.
I might be convinced to drop by some time for a guest appearance or something since I have some free time until mid January.
We'd appreciate the extra company. :3
And yeah, now I don't feel quite so bad about my family thingie that I had to go to. Everything worked out for the best. :3 Looking forward to the next session. :)
Night Nachos! :D
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So, when exactly are we playing? We have people coming around tonight, so if it's before 10 PM or so my time I might be a bit late.
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OK, did we decide we were going for Friday this week in the end?
If so, I'd like to start a little earlier if possible, because I need to get to bed earlier than I have been when we've been gaming on a Saturday....
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Earlier could be a problem on my end, as that's cutting it awfully close to classes. We could just not have a session this week. THat'd probably be for the best.
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Well, if we start at midnight my time like usual I can still do a good 2-3 hours without any problem. It'd just have to be a somewhat shorter session.
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So, RP tonight or not?
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Not tonight.
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No game- grandparents are visiting. Will be free next week.
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yeah, just got roped in to go to one of my bosses'(the one I don't like) baby shower. Don't know how long it'll take, but I'll definitely either be late or straight up not make it.
GO ON WITHOUT ME
CARRY ON MY WAYWARD SON
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We'll assume you went partying with Mutt and Sarge and the Lord of the Night. With motorcycles and beer and good music and stuff.
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And a one, and a two, and this evening is free. Back in action, baby.
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got some surprise birthday stuff tomorrow, can't make it.
Which is a huge pain considering last session, but hey. Family takes precedent.
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This allows me to actually neatly tie a few things up, well, a little neater than I'd have first expected.
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...I don't start tomorrow, do I?
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You might, depending.
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Say, are you into Anniversary Editions as well?
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I've read W20 and was so happy that it cut down on the stupid furry bullshit oWerewolf cultivated in many ways. It's still there, like any cancer would be, but they at least made the bullshit something I could withstand.
V20 I haven't read through fully yet, so I'll reserve my judgement on that.
On the whole I feel the nWoD is generally superior to the Old except in a few cases.
oMage=nMage
nWerewolf > oWerewolf
nVampire(Blood potency is far far better a system than generations)>oVamp
oWraith>Geist (as much as I love Geist, Wraith is better. 20th anniversary when?)
nChangeling>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>oChangeling
nMummy>oMummy
nDemon>oDemon
nHunter>oHunter
Avoiding the eastern cosmology differences with the nWoD was also a fucking move that should have been done in the first place. Beast Shifters of the East and Kindred of the East anyone? Plus no metaplot with the crazy bullshit that was thrown in .
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I can be up for participating in or GMing a OWOD chronicle with little to none metaplot.
V20 is a streamlined version of older editions without metaplot bullshit. You don't need books that are being released as expansions, as it is stand alone and contains all clans, disciplines and bloodlines, but Hunters Hunted 2 is still a neat addition that I recommend buying. There are no crossovers with W20 in V20, really, but there is some mention in HH2 what are advantages and disadvantages of cooperating with Lupines to hunt down vampires. Also no bullshit like Imbued. Some hunters can have Numina, but these are nothing like "Hunters".
As for W20, I must say I like their Changing Breeds expansion. Beast Courts are still there, but now it is mentioned that actually many breeds in Asia don't even participate in it, so you can run Asian campaign without the Courts. Beast Courts with their organized, courtly feel are inferior IMO to Ahadi which are newly forged group of African shapeshifters that want to get the shit done in less organized way, forged in a war against a Simba warlord.
But I still poke fun at it being Werewolf: Weaboo Fightan Magic or Werewolf: Hakuna Matata. Screw that, I always mock the shit out of Werewolf, but like it nevertheless, I think it is being best run not seriously.
Wraith20 will be some time after M20, I guess. It seems the M20 is delayed because of proofreading and other extra works.
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You might, depending.
...Nobody but me touches Liam.
He's my dumb guy. Get your own.
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You might, depending.
...Nobody but me touches Liam.
He's my dumb guy. Get your own.
No shit, Detective. I have my own.
Honestly, who does that? Taking another person's PC, bloody crazy...
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Speaking of which, you should pop in the chat.
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B-but Game of Thrones!
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GoT aired?
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No shit, Detective. I have my own.
Honestly, who does that? Taking another person's PC, bloody crazy...
Didn't that almost happen the time before?
And please, it's Mr Detective.
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Assembled potential WoD party for the summer. It's either WoD or Call of Cthulhu.
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So some fun news:
First of all, Saturdays might become a bit of a bimonthly running thing for me due to schedules I might be able to pull running earlier in the day on sundays and the like. Which does suck balls but hey, gotta get that money. Upside, the hunter update came out. And hoo boy was I very glad with the changes.
If you've still got those Hunter sheets laying around, we're jumping back into that (because I can kinda tell Vampire is not the best system for you guys) possibly this saturday. Mike won't be able to make it but Hunter, like Shadowrun, is easy as hell to do introductions into the cell for. Also KAIZA may join us when it comes to Shadowrun.
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KEYS AND HIS MAGICAL SHOTGUN RETURN?
GRORRIOUS
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KEYS AND HIS MAGICAL SHOTGUN RETURN?
GRORRIOUS
Yes. Hopefully tonight, if people show up.
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Hey. Mike.
Fuck you. You aren't welcome in my games anymore.
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Yeah, fuck you too, asshole.
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This isn't just about alice.
You complained about time all the fucking time, never fucking seemed to actually try and RP, and needed me to handhold you all the motherfucking time. I'm sick. And tired. Of. Doing. This. Shit.
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Arch, it clearly is about Alice, otherwise you wouldn't be announcing it just now, when I have done nothing at all (even Lantz not getting kicked was not my decision). And, I complain about time because we are playing at about 5 AM in the fucking morning and I need to sleep at some point. I think that is entirely reasonable. As for the RPing, yes, there were issues, we discussed that before and you accepted it.
So, no, cut the bullshit, this is entirely about Alice.
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I've been considering this for weeks dude.
And because fuck you. Really. You are a fucking cunt man.
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Arch, the only cunt here is you. You are the one taking out events I didn't even cause on me, just because you can't badger Elf into kicking someone you hate by constantly being an asshole to them all the fucking time.
You know, if you'd left Lantz alone more than perhaps Alice wouldn't have been so damn stressed about dealing with stuff involving him. I'm sure she pins the blame squarely on Lantz, but frankly I pin the blame for a lot of this crap on you and your friends. I know you have issues with Lantz and that, perhaps, some of them are justified, but your reaction to those issues is absolutely not justified, and that reaction is what has caused Alice so much stress. If you just ignored Lantz then she wouldn't have to deal with this damn crap all the time.
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Arch, the only cunt here is you. You are the one taking out events I didn't even cause on me, just because you can't badger Elf into banning someone you hate by constantly being an asshole to them all the fucking time.
You know, if you'd left Lantz alone more than perhaps Alice wouldn't have been so damn stressed about dealing with stuff involving him. I'm sure she pins the blame squarely on Lantz, but frankly I pin the blame for a lot of this crap on you and your friends. I know you have issues with Lantz and that, perhaps, some of them are justified, but your reaction to those issues is absolutely not justified, and that reaction is what has caused Alice so much stress. If you just ignored Lantz then she wouldn't have to deal with this damn crap all the time.
Hey.
Get the fuck out of this thread.
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Arch, I own the fucking forum. If I want to post in this thread, I'll damn well post in this thread. And I am sure as hell not going to just ignore you throwing a fucking temper tantrum.
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OK, the two of you; right now I DON'T want to deal with more of this...bickering.
Mike, just leave. An argument between the two of you breaking out is the last thing I need right now.
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Wow.