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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: August 01, 2013, 05:03:33 AM »
Hm, alright.


Different question: I know Rin is hopeless with technology, but even she knows how to use a cell phone... right?

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 31, 2013, 05:13:43 AM »
Alright, cool. Weird (lack of) time shit hooray.

Make her way as in get there and possibly "navigate" it.


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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 31, 2013, 04:46:20 AM »
Thinking a bit more, the whole "soul splitting" thing could potentially work, actually: the two different iterations of de Rais clash so much that his soul actually splits into two: one ascends to the Throne, while the other is left behind as a Wraith.


Okay, now I have some questions:

The Throne of Heroes is outside of time and space, inside Akasha, right? Does that mean that though the Holy Grail calls them down one at a time, the Spirits' departure could be considered simultaneous from the Throne's point of view?

Also, Len is a Demon-succubus-familiar-thing that messes with dreams, and is rather powerful, correct? Would it be too unreasonable to assume that given a big enough boost, she could potentially make her way into Akasha?

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 30, 2013, 07:10:12 AM »
Okay, that makes more sense.

Ohhh wait, I'm not sure you can. Wiki knowledge is inherently suspect, but a wraith is a lingering soul, and a Servant is a Heroic Spirit (which is also a soul) made manifest. Unless you use the "infinite parallel worlds" justification, then I don't see how one soul could be both unless you somehow split the soul apart.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 30, 2013, 06:53:24 AM »
Problem: If you're making a knight Bluebeard wraith, then how does he reconcile himself with the fact that he has to devour people's souls to survive? That's more crazy-Bluebeard's thing.

It should work, though, since a similar thing happened to the Edelfelt sisters in the 3rd.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 30, 2013, 06:03:48 AM »
"Hah! You and what army?"

*Kerry summons Einzbern's homunculus-piloted Gundam swarms*

"... oh."


EDIT: Also, Iskander decides to upgrade all of his Ioninan Hetaroi mounts to Gundams because MECHS.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 30, 2013, 05:12:52 AM »
I may be speaking out of my ass here, and this has nothing to do with familiars, but if you can put a consciousness into artificial human bodies to make homunculi, then why not robots? Granted, there may be too much of a disparity between the human mind and humanoid warmechs - unless we start considering Evangelion-type organobots and AAARGH STOP BRAIN STOP.

Just have homunculi pilots then :P. Or something.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 30, 2013, 04:49:42 AM »
Ohhh, gotcha.

If I remember correctly, this is also with Gundams, yes? Sentient Gundam familiars go go go.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 30, 2013, 04:39:56 AM »
Unless I'm missing something, I assume that what you said means that you plan to mix Ciel's Route with the 4th? I'm curious to see how that works out, unless by "Ciel's Route" you mean "Roa permadies".

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 30, 2013, 04:26:01 AM »
So her wish is for death?


Hm... If the Church didn't get her hands on her, then I think she'd be constantly on the run from them, considering how they consider her a heretic and all that, which may drive her into the open arms of the Association, and... ooh, that could be interesting to see. She would be a nightmarish Enforcer, I can tell you that. Hell, considering how much latent magical potential she has (4000 units of od is just ridiculous) and her inability to die, she could be a Marshall by the time the War comes around.

This version of Ciel would be lolhax though, unless Kerry gets a good Origin Bullet in her.


Maybe she'd be in a similar position to Touko, except on the run from the Church instead of the Association?

There are quite a few directions you can go with her, but the one you choose must fit with the overall theme of your story.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 29, 2013, 04:23:50 AM »
Good points about Tokiomi, though as always, poor communication kills o_O

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 29, 2013, 03:05:46 AM »
Hm, well, let's break it down.

Kariya and Tokiomi: HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHHAH no.

Kariya and Kiritsugu: Kerry's always been more the lone wolf type. He'd only ally out of convenience, and would probably end Kariya as soon as he ceased to be useful... much to the dismay of Arturia and Diarmuid.

Kariya and Kirei: Hmm. That... might actually happen, considering how Kirei was so treacherous in the canon 4th. Diarmuid wouldn't like it, though, since his Master is insinuating himself back into the "love" triangle, and Diarmuid knows how those tend to work out for him and those around him.

Kirei would likely stab him in the back, though, so that's probably a no go as well.

Kariya and Waver: I don't know what you're planning for the story, but an inept magus of a prominent bloodline allied with the magus who believes that magi can become great through knowledge rather than birth would be interesting. There wouldn't be too much clash with Iskander and Diarmuid as well.

Kariya and El-Melloi: Unlikely, since El-Melloi would consider Kariya beneath him, though it could pan out. Of course, the fate of El-Melloi in canon doesn't bode well for Kariya either.

Kariya and Uryuu: Hoo boy, that would be interesting. Could be a case of using monsters to fight monsters (Kariya tries to manipulate Uryuu by "promising" to teach him how to do Magecraft?). Not sure how wise it is to ally with serial killers, though.


From a pure survivability standpoint, it actually looks like Waver is his best bet, since he's mostly reasonable, not insane/ruthless/treacherous/a complete asshole, and actually survives the War in canon.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 29, 2013, 01:24:29 AM »
Either that, or somehow finagle an alliance between Kariya and one of the other Masters.

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Fanfiction / Re: Fate/Refraction
« on: July 29, 2013, 12:14:00 AM »
... and  now I feel the chapter's much too long. I've cut out some words to make it more concise, as well as use my original ending point. The rest of the text will go towards Chapter 5.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: July 28, 2013, 08:04:28 PM »
How would he get Diarmuid? Did he steal the catalyst from El-Melloi (which made him furious, considering he had been stolen from twice, and summoned a Berserker instead? :P)? If it's just a "standard" summoning with Kariya having the same motivation as canon (save Sakura), then I can't imagine that the Grail would send him Diarmuid.

Granted, I'm not too familiar with Diarmuid's backstory, but I think his thing is more with love entanglements and treachery, whereas Kariya's thing is more of the standard "rescue the maiden from the evil wizard". Maybe he could get Don Quixote XD.

EDIT: Scratch the above. I could see how that would work, actually (Aoi and Tokiomi and Kariya).

As for survivability, you're asking us to consider this hypothetical scenario of a Servant swap in the 4th HGW we're familiar with, though at the same time you admit that the conditions prior to your version of the 4th are very different. Unless you are willing to tell us what exactly has changed, I'm afraid that the best we can do is give you predictions based on established canon.

Worm'd Kariya + Lancer = dead. Magus Kariya + Lancer = Kiri's gonna be gunning for him, so also dead. Magus Kariya + Berserksalot = Possibly dead, though has a better shot than most - though as Cherry pointed out, Zouken wouldn't allow that to happen without worming Kariya first.

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