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Hey Mike, it was a fucking war. You don't go to school when your at fucking war. That's just stupid.

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Oh and by shanked I mean put a bladeworm familiar egg into her, which was hatched and ripped her apart from the inside out.

She took advantage of Rin's kindness like a real magus would.

Zouken was so proud that day, he gave her a pat on the head.

888
I mean the alternative would to use her as a womb to produce a suitable matou heir. Which I doubt a lucid and peak Zouken would risk letting her interact with people if that was her only purpose.

What he did was honestly the nicest think Zouken would do in that situation that was IC for him. No worms, no grail fragment, no brainwashing into an almost mindless puppet to serve as a baby maker for her whole life.

He was fucking merciful considering his other options. And he lived up to his bargain with Tokiomi, both his children became heirs to a magus family and lived up to their full potential (at least till Sakura more or less shanked Rin at school during the war).


889
Still less monstrous then canon soul rot Zouken. I mean Sakura will never probably be truly happy, but then again she also does not become an abomination that has to deal with the guilt of almost ending the world (if she does not have that guilt then she really deserves to not be happy anyway).

And by right leverage I mean using magical contacts and magecraft to dig himself into the right spot in her mind to rebuild it from the ground up. Surprisingly simple really. Although her resilience was annoying. Not like she knows he did this, and not like he would ever tell her. That could jeopardize her stability.

890
Daiki, this is an AU Zouken with a different thought process. He basically intended the same think Tokiomi did when he let Zouken have Sakura.

And if ya see my other post it goes into his fail safes he had planned just in case something went wrong.

I have been thinking about this back story for a while now. Originally it had a lot of holes but I think I have generally patched them up.

891
Bishi Zouken is best grandpa.

Also if Sakura had broken the loyalty contract and betrayed them she would have bascily lost the ability to act independently. Then Zouken would manipulate her into producing a child with the first suitable man she could seduce. Hopefully leading to the birth of a suitable heir he can raise since childhood and mold them how he sees fit.

892
Not mind control.

He just, what word am I looking for, applied to right leverage to alter the fundamental ways she thinks a bit. The lotalty thing was more like "you will not betray me or the Matou." Can't have his heir going rebel for a stupid reason after all.

I mean normal Sakura would make a shit heir, not the right attitude. He needed to fix that to ensure he could win the Grail war and prevent AMs release as well as ensure the Matou would live on at the same time.

Also, never said he was a "nice" person. He just not a monster.

893
Not impressive really.

It just means you have ample energy.

And Zouken could synthesize loyalty with that using a combination of command seals and magical contracts, would be hard and would probably never do it (cause really it is pointless to him, why do you need loyalty from a weapon, like a gun or sword, as long as you can properly wield them), but possible.

How do you think he made Sakura into a perfect magus mentally as well as insuring her loyalty. Trust me it was not easy. Her mind was surprisingly resilient to change.

894
Summoning and having a servant is not at all impressive to Zouken.

He made that system, if he has the energy he can fucking do it himself. It would be a Tuesday to him.

But that might be off the current topic, but was something Mike brought up sooner.

895
Wrong, Mike. He was pretty idealistic before the soul rot.

This. I mean he wanted to wish for a fucking Utopia.

My Zouken has lost that idealism, and is much more cynical and jaded then super young Zouken. But still not as bad a soul rot Zouken.

But Sakura though. Zouken really made her a fantastic magus. Mindset and all. 

Poor Shirou.

896
Ya not a worm pit. I mean worms have a role, neccessary for crest transfer.

However otherthing happened with Sakura that are a result of Zouken's activity, training and raising.

897
Never really had a strong moral compass. Reason why Zel determined the Makari where "fundamentally evil".  He has standards, like "no genocide", and "perhaps I should not fuck up the greatest heir the Makari will ever get, might be counter productive.". Would probably feed his family to a wood chipper if it meant Justeaze back though, so take it with a grain of salt.

And ya found another way, which is arguably worse depending on who you ask. More effective at any rate.

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Think it was just an idea they where mentioning.

If it is an issue I will work it out with them but I have already written up the sheet.

Also you are going to love what I did with Sakura, no worm pit and full fledged Heir to the Matou secrets.

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Damn it Kat, It was going to be a surprise.

I told ya that in confidence.

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Lantz's fics / Re: A Thousand Words (possible lemon)
« on: May 20, 2014, 11:34:58 PM »
Umbra, that pic is so sweet and nice and makes me want to gag.

You should feel ashamed.

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