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Lantz's fics / Re: The Round Table (A collaborative fiction thread)

« on: April 29, 2013, 12:20:45 AM »

it makes perfect sense, rider gets sidelined when sakura is in view, it always happens, just like rin in UBW.

The thing is, without a servant, Sakura gets sidelined. Plus, her devotion to Sakura is a big part of Rider's character. Not to mention that we don't have anyone else to give Rider to that isn't just horribly stretching it and turning basically everyone into a magus.

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Lantz's fics / Re: Lantz's fanfiction round up and discussion

« on: April 29, 2013, 12:19:42 AM »

it's not, it's saying everything you mention in your post can be done better.

Well, OK, then explain how....

in any case if rider and caster are seperate then shirou has to run across and spare sakura twice. a bit difficult.

Well, no, because, as I said, Rider isn't nasty. She gives Sakura something she wants and Sakura comes willingly. So, no rescue is needed.

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Lantz's fics / Re: Lantz's fanfiction round up and discussion

« on: April 28, 2013, 09:06:19 PM »

the whole thing

OK, you're not making sense here. You said, in reply to what I posted that there are better ways of achieving it and, then, when I ask "achieving what?", you say "what you just posted". That's entirely circular.

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Lantz's fics / Re: The Round Table (A collaborative fiction thread)

« on: April 28, 2013, 09:03:00 PM »

exactly what i said

What you said doesn't make sense....

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Lantz's fics / Re: of flesh and fantasy poll and discussion.

« on: April 28, 2013, 09:02:47 PM »

it'll work itself out, trust me.

Well, OK.

Well, in that case, I'd like to work out the one with the teams fighting each other (the one I suggested first) first.

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Lantz's fics / Re: Lantz's fanfiction round up and discussion

« on: April 28, 2013, 08:57:26 PM »

do what you posted

What aspect of it?

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Lantz's fics / Re: The Round Table (A collaborative fiction thread)

« on: April 28, 2013, 08:57:05 PM »

rider gets ignored any time sakura isn't, she is made to be a non entity. i do not want that to happen this time.

What do you mean?

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Lantz's fics / Re: of flesh and fantasy poll and discussion.

« on: April 28, 2013, 08:56:32 PM »

I think you should pick one to discuss and we'll work on expanding it.

Well, OK, but do you want the setting worked out more generally first?

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Lantz's fics / Re: The Round Table (A collaborative fiction thread)

« on: April 28, 2013, 08:25:08 PM »

fine, but i swear to god if rider doesn't get away from sakura on a personal level i'm flip my shit.

What do you mean?

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Lantz's fics / Re: Lantz's fanfiction round up and discussion

« on: April 28, 2013, 08:24:46 PM »

well that's a thought but there's plenty better ways to do that.

To do what?

keep in mind it's a development story issue, they won't just forget abuse.

Well, of course, but in Rider's case it wouldn't be malicious in intent.

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Lantz's fics / Re: The Round Table (A collaborative fiction thread)

« on: April 28, 2013, 07:34:49 PM »

that's to be figured out but we can come up with something.

Perhaps, but I think Sakura is better off retaining Rider.

i don't know why you keep talking about cruelty to rider.

Well, I like Rider, and I also think she works best when paired with Sakura, who she cares about and wants to fight for.

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Lantz's fics / Re: The Round Table (A collaborative fiction thread)

« on: April 28, 2013, 06:57:07 PM »

just what I said, why can't their over protectiveness lead to a character moment where sakura proves them wrong?

Like I said, the problem is how. A solo master in a Grail War cannot do much, and Sakura isn't even all that powerful without AM, due to the lack of training.

Also, like I said, I prefer her to be paired with Rider, it seems rather cruel on Rider otherwise, plus I don't see what role she could play in the story.

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Lantz's fics / Re: of flesh and fantasy poll and discussion.

« on: April 28, 2013, 03:28:22 PM »

OK, well, I have a few more ideas for gameshows. They're all erotic in nature, though, because I don't have a clear enough idea of the nature of the world to work out what non-erotic ones would be sensible. Firstly, it's a gameshow something like Crystal Maze, only with the challenges being erotic in nature. Also, if you get locked in a room, you get raped. Secondly, a gameshow where one team member is captured and tortured, and the others have to perform various challenges in order to find them before they can be forced into revealing some secret.

Finally, I had the idea for a competition between teams of two, one of whom is a torturer and one who is a victim. The basic concept is that each team's torturer tortures the other team's victim, and the one who breaks first (by giving out some secret information which, when combined with the information the other team knows, allows them to find and open some safe or similar) loses. Sakura and Rider would be a team (Rider as the torturer), and likely a very strong one. Caster would be another torturer, but I'm not sure who to pair her with. To make it more interesting (so it's not just "whoever has the highest pain tolerance wins"), there would be variations, such as different themes for the torture (medieval etc.), wild-card rounds (e.g. swapping the victim and torturer around) and also probably mini-games which give the winning team an advantage. They would also probably play more than one round of torture for each match-up, in order that the different variations can be involved.

After someone has been defeated, the losers are arrested and locked in a prison cell, where they're given time to punish each other for their failure if they so desire. The winning victim, meanwhile, is left tied up until their team-mate chooses to release them (which, in practice, means kinky victory sex, to reward the victim for their endurance and to allow their team-mate to resolve things like sexual frustration from orgasm denial). I also thought of showing Rider and Sakura's training process, which consists of Rider starting out relatively gentle and encouraging Sakura to enjoy BDSM sex, followed by progressively longer torture sessions where she's rewarded with sex and affection at the end if she succeeds (and punished by being locked in a cage overnight if she fails), and also some sessions where Rider won't stop even if she begs her to (to force her beyond what she sees as her limits). Sakura consents to all of this, of course, because there's a big prize on offer for the winner (and, Rider is careful to not push her too hard). Basically, the idea would be for Sakura to mentally associate the pain with sexual enjoyment, and surviving that pain with love and excitement later on, allowing her to push herself further and endure more.

Another possible game is something like Blind Date, only with sex. Or, a game where you have a guy/girl up for auction and the contestants have to play out various games in order to win them.

Also, I could really do with some actual help in working out this idea in more detail. At the moment it's just a vague concept of "world with gameshows", and I am not sure how to turn it into something more than that. Just expecting me to do everything and giving completely-useless one-line replies is not going to work.

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Lantz's fics / Re: Lantz's fanfiction round up and discussion

« on: April 28, 2013, 03:05:11 PM »

Then have fun with it

Well, yeah, true.

Although, honestly, at the moment all I've got is the idea of Rider and Caster regularly summoning Sakura for BDSM games. She gets the essense she needs, they get to torture a beautiful young girl. Rider would likely become quite attached to her little succubus, though....

The only other thing I thought of was a vague concept of Caster imprisoning Sakura (i.e. preventing her from leaving), getting captured and ending up in hell being punished.

Like I said before, we really need more details about the setting etc. before I can think of anything beyond the obvious.

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Lantz's fics / Re: The Round Table (A collaborative fiction thread)

« on: April 28, 2013, 03:02:34 PM »

Why can't that be a character building moment ?

What?

My point is that Sakura will have no role in the story, certainly not any natural role. The only way she'll get involved is if we force her in where she doesn't really fit. You have yet to give any explanation whatsoever of what, exactly, she's going to do without a servant.