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Fanfiction / Re: the OC corner
« on: February 17, 2014, 06:07:01 AM »
That's a pretty nice breakdown. Though to clarify on who Satoshi's father is, it's Shirou. Somehow in lantz's universe, all the Servants are still around and fine and OK and married with children (because they're real now, because otherwise that means they're ok to kill apparently, so magically giving them all real bodies fixes that! ...Yeah, don't ask me how that works) and stuff.

Also, this might help you a bit as well:

http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,55.msg12155.html#msg12155

That's Satoshi's character sheet for Cross Effects. It's apparently what Toshi's abilities are cumulative after his adventures or whatever. ...If you think he looks Stu-ish now, wait until you see the sheet...
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*raises hand*

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*puts hand down*

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*raises hand again and opens mouth*

...

*puts it down and ponders*

...

Lantz, sweetie... this is excessive.

I'm perfectly willing and happy to help you with the character, but the character definitely needs help. I'm willing to give a full breakdown of why, but that's... just too much. There's no better way to put it.



You're okay, kid.

sometimes asking the wrong questions, but hey

You're okay.
Yaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy

This amuses me more than it should.

Probably because I haven't been called kid in 5+ years.

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Fanfiction / Re: the OC corner
« on: February 17, 2014, 05:28:42 AM »
Moving on I only skimmed that new oc, he seems, hmmm, broad I guess, I'll give a better look later
That's actually deliberate. He's a jack of all trades and (supposed) to be a master of very few as a general rule, but rather obviously, that failed. Gonna get that fixed though!

Anyways, I looked up Satoshi just to see what the big fuss is about and... well... Lantz, I hate to say it, but he really does come across as a Gary Stu (or however you would word it). To give a full breakdown:

the story starts like this, Aoko Zelretch and Merlin enter origin and find that Crimson Moon is fused with Angra Manyu and the moon. Why? Because the multiverse theory states everything is possible and that the bad guy only needs to win once to collapse all of reality. They surmise that they could summon every hero in very universe and stop the end of everything.
This is... kind of crap? At least how you're explaining it here.

From the way the Nasuverse seems to treat the Source/Origin/Root/ 「 」 , it's not something you can alter. It's ALL KNOWLEDGE EVER, sort of like the TRUTH in Full Metal Alchemist.  You can't touch it or affect it in any way. Anyone who has touched it has ceased to exist because you can't comprehend it. Even something like Crimson Moon + Angra Manyu can't. It is infinite.

That said, gives Crimson Moon a huge power boost and the ability to cross dimensional barriers? Sure! Great! Alternatively, just an absolutely horribly bad thing for a significant portion of the multiverse? Sure! This thing winning being bad enough for the local multiverse to justify a huge paradox? Go for it! But affecting  「 」 just... no? Not the way they've defined it in the Nasuverse.

Mind you, I don't have a huge problem with Crimson Moon fused with Angra Manyu, but it'd likely be better stated as Crimson Moon absorbing (and being corrupted by) Angra Manyu as part of absorbing the Holy Grail for power?

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the problem is three fold however. One Zelretch can no longer use the second magic. Two Merlin cannot link origin to the normal world with his own energies. Three Aoko can't find a hero to defeat crim because history says Crimson Moon won.
Why wouldn’t Zeltrech have access to the Second Magic? I’m not sure I understand that.
Could you explain why Merlin can’t link to the normal world a bit better? I can see a few possible reasons but I want to know your reasoning here. The Aoko thing is fine.

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Knowing this they choose a timeline to shatter to solve these issues and force a paradox. This paradox is Satoshi. Ok, well the editor is getting slow so I'll post more later  but I hope everyone understands so far.
Following just fine at this point, but see above for the issues.

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The three sever the time line and begin to modify the paradox to suit their ends. First they cause Gilgamesh to kill Satoshi as a child. Shattering his soul and leaving the majority of it to be protected by the lady of the lake. Saber then gave him Avalon desperate to save her child. His body a receptor for Avalon (the isle) and the fairies magic connected through the noble phantasm caused his growth to continue and with the other pieces of his soul spread to other worlds his Origin became Unification and Restoration  causing him to have a psychological desire to fix broken objects, relationships etcetera.

after Gilgamesh nearly killed him Saber finally relented and began to train her son. She reached out to other heroes from the grail war to do so.

Hercules and Medea taught him Wrestling, Endurance and survival in Hercules case and Magic theory  in Medea's. Later the Latter position would be taken by Merlin. Aoko came to be an association teacher as a result of past events leaving Rin Tohsaka in charge of the association. Aoko would become Satoshi's sponsor of sorts and train and befriend the boy.

Satoshi would later be the test subject for the later named Rider Arm, a belt device created by Rin Tohsaka as a reverse engineering of Zelretch's kaldo Ruby. The prototype attuned to the user (Satoshi) and drew his soul rather than just energy to him from the other worlds. This means that as the later dubbed Rider Crimson is Satoshi fighting at 1500 Times his final power (this assumes Ruby Causes a girl to assume 1000 times their normal ability) this also gave Rin false data on the project leading to a side project later on.

Satoshi learned how to use firearms secretly from his grandfather, although disliking the practice and not having mastery of the craft he knows more than enough to use them.

Satoshi for years expressed a hatred of animals caused by the lost of a familiar created by Medea at Saber's request. This familiar was Satoshi's first friend, a stuffed lion named Gao who could grow as big as a van and appear as a real lion with all the ferocity of the real thing.  The pair were reunited sometime after Satoshi's revival after his first death.

Phew... hoo boy... where to start... okay, how this guy gets his traits and skills is… horrendously convoluted, there’s no good way to say it. Let me see if I can follow this:

1). Gilgamesh kills this guy as a kid (who’s the kid, just to be sure?) and this (somehow?) shatters Satoshi’s soul.
Why Gilgamesh? What's the point of that? Why didn't our three super mages just do that in the first place?

2). Gilgamesh(?) left the majority of said soul to be protected by the Lady of the Lake
Why? As in: What's the reasoning IC for this?

3). Satoshi is (somehow?) Arturia’s child?
... okay...? Who's the dad?

4). He is given Avalon and “His body a receptor for Avalon (the isle) and the fairies magic connected through the noble phantasm caused his growth to continue and with the other pieces of his soul spread to other worlds” so he always had/has/will forever have Avalon and it works for him like it would for Arturia?
Why not just say he's got Avalon and is able to use it normally? What does this do differently than that other than to make Satoshi "more special" (which is uneccessary)?

5). This turned his Origin into Unification and Restoration, making him want to fix shit (as a compulsion?)
... okay, sure. Bit unusual considering Avalon is the crystalized Utopia, but acceptable.

6).  After Gilgamesh nearly killed him, Arturia begins training him (after not training him?) and reaches out to other heroes from the HGW to do so (How? If she still has Avalon, she’s alive, so how does she access these Heroic Spirits?)

7). Heracles and Medea teach him shit
How? How are they able to be in the same place as him at the same time anyways? Why not use other, better teachers? (Not that you can do a lot better than Heracles, but you can do better than Medea)

8). Merlin teaches him shit
Sure! No problems here.

9). Aoko became an association teacher because reasons leaving Rin in charge of the Association
Wait, huh? How does that work out? Aoko doesn’t lead the Association in the first place, how does that put Rin in charge?

10). Aoko becomes Satoshi’s sponsor and trains/befriends the boy
Okay, lost me on how he’s here as well as with Saber at the same time

11). Satoshi gets the Rider Arm which draws soul across realities and lets him fight 1500 times his “full power” compared to the original item (made by Zeltretch) that increases it by 1000 times (by assumption).
This seems… ridiculous. A). Why would this thing work when Zeltrech doesn’t have the second magic? B). Rin is a genius, but Zeltretch is an ancient genius, that something she made exceeds something he did by 50% seems… silly at best. This needs a lot more explanation to be plausible.

12). Satoshi learns how to use firearms (secretly) from his grandfather (who is…?) but doesn’t like them
Why is this added then? It seems like it’s adding a trait just for the sake of adding a trait, something that quickly gets called out as a ‘Sue’ trait as you've definitely been told.

13). Satoshi can die and revive? He used to hate animals but now…. What? He has a stuffed lion that can turn into a battle lion that (somehow?) sticks with him every time he revives?
The problem here is more of the number of questions this raises without any answers rather than the lion thing itself.

And please, before you state that it’s a deliberate paradox, I understand that, but a certain amount of logic is required for readers to suspend their disbelief, and I'm totally missing it. It seems to be exclusively set up to make Satoshi ultra special, and that's sure to turn someone off of a character, regardless of how powerful it makes them (or not). You've also left off any personality quirks, likes, dislikes, flaws, or generally detrimental things about the character.

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Fanfiction / Re: the OC corner
« on: February 16, 2014, 06:51:35 AM »
Hmm, regardless, thanks! I appreciate any help whatsoever :D Insulting or not, as long as they legit try to help, I'd appreciate it. It's the insults for insults sake that bug me.

And yeah, overepowered is never good. Well, if you focus on the combat. It's the Superman problem, but that's something separate.

Anyways, I understand that, but it's hard to escape. Someone who can stand on the field of battle with Servants at all is severely overpowered in the context of a lot of other more 'reasonable' settings. Taking weaponry from a sci-fi setting and introducing it into a medieval, magical setting is overpowered, even if you remember that you have limited ammo and no infrastructure to take care of it. The ability to perform magic, even in a limited context, breaks assumptions and is overpowered in the same Sci-fi setting that you got the equipment from. And if you were stuck in such a situation, wouldn't you go out of your way to get as many game-breakers as you could?

It's a natural consequence given enough time, and I can't really figure a logical way to avoid that  :o

Okay, slight lie, I have one idea, but it'd be a massive pain to keep track of. My best bet so far is that in universes which he's not actually 'summoned', he's stuck with the body that he had upon summoning. That and after a certain point, he starts getting squeezed into the Servant container like proper Heroic Spirits are due to having too much power for the HGW system to handle. I actually asked in another thread for when that'd be appropriate to do and suggestions on how best to do it.



(Funnily, Saber still could beat him. I didn't even intend for it, but she can still beat him even without Avalon. This amuses me endlessly for no good reason.)

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Fanfiction / Re: the OC corner
« on: February 16, 2014, 05:53:52 AM »
Okay, I'll take the chance and assume you're serious about this and not one of CV's lame attempts at trolling. I have three pieces of advice for you.
Quite serious actually, more so than I originally thought I'd be when this popped into my head.

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1. Make your guy weaker, or at least make his final iteration weaker. This isn't something that's negotiable. The hard and fast rule is that Gilgamesh is the strongest Heroic Spirit. It's a rule for a reason. The fucker is OP on purpose and anyone capable of going toe to toe with serious Gil without pulling out an affinity advantage or the power of love (the explicit, author stated reason Saber beat him in Fate) is too strong to be a good character, no matter how many thousands of words you spend justifying said power. You can still have a good story and awesome fights with a relatively weak protagonist, and in fact, they'll be better for it (Shirou and Shiki spend Tsukihime and FSN barely managing to survive and hitting way above their level). Just look at lantz. He thinks his guy Satoshi is the best thing ever, but every single person other than lantz hates Satoshi's guts, and for good reason. Your character is even worse than that, somehow.
That's something I've been concerned about actually, almost exactly.

He spends the first ~third of the story severely underpowered, having to rely on good-natured allies and outside knowledge to not die horrendously. The second-third he's on-par for most of the worlds he ends up in, but still underpowered by Fate standards. It's only the final third of the story that he ends up overpowered, which I'm hoping to turn into an examination of what happens when you have power as well as how he deals with being superatural/unnatural in worlds without magic.

Thing is? Gilgamesh still beats this guy. His armor is explicitly ridiculous, but it doesn't stand up to Ea. Hell, everything he has combined doesn't stand up to Ea. He (by this much later point in the story) is able to stand up to Gate of Babylon in basic spam, but when Gilgamesh gets serious, this guy still loses. He's able to make Gil get somewhat serious, which is saying something, but yeah, Gilgamesh still beats him, even without using Enkidu (Which works on him because god damnit stolen Divinity, that's a nasty surprise when it happens).

IF Gilgamesh didn't take him seriously, Archer OC would take Gil down hard and fast before he had a chance to do otherwise. The problem is, Gilgamesh recognizes quality when he see's it, and that armor alone, not to mention the other 'Phantasms' he carries on him tip Gilgamesh off to take him seriously enough. Gilgamesh is arrogant, not stupid.

(And I forgot to state, yes, it is a Self-Insert, but I try to think of it as another, seperate person to make it easier to write)

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2. Read Sleeping With the Girls. It's a similar story to yours about an ordinary self insert thrown into a bunch of anime universes and forced to survive, and it's probably the best such story on the internet. If you're going to follow anyone's example, follow this story's.
That's actually the inspiration for this! I rather enjoyed it and intend to capture a large portion of the feel of that store if I can.

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3. Get a beta reader. Preferably not someone like Mike who only cares that his favourite character is treated nicely.
I intend to! I have a friend or two that might, but the more eyes looking at this the better, do you have any suggestions for good Beta Readers? :)

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Fanfiction / Re: the OC corner
« on: February 16, 2014, 04:49:03 AM »
I don't get either of those references sadly (Ecstasy Darks?), though the pic is funny :D

And I am determined to make the story not suck! Good? If I can swing it, but definitely at least not suck (5/10 at least! Aiming for a minimum of 5/10!)! This, admittedly, will take a while.

More seriously, I was worried that it ends up overpowered, I'd really like to avoid that and would appreciate help doing so :) Those two 'statlines' skip a lot of stuff. ... like hell, a lot of stuff. I just double checked, but it's over 200 pages of just brief summaries between those two statlines. Holy hell I didn't realize I'd written out that much o_O

Anyways, the emphasis of the story would be far less on "AWESOME POWERZ" and far more on "Oh god oh god oh god how do I note die?!", if I do it right (admittedly big If) then it would be a story about a struggle to survive, the repeated crushing of hubris, and how people change. That said, the goal of the story is to have fun, both for me writing it and for anyone reading it. Any help at all to make that happen would be awesome ^_^

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: February 15, 2014, 04:48:24 AM »
Hmm, OK, I guess the way it goes doesn't seem utterly ridiculous, although I'm not sure Dark Sakura would kill Rin so much as swallow her, based on the last Bad End....
Oh? Okay. *makes note*

But yay! Sort of vaguely reasonableness! Is there anything else that jumps out at you as weird or ridiculous (though not utterly ridiculous)?

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As for the heart, if you cut Sakura's heart out and removed all of Zouken's worms, I don't think Angra Mainyu would be able to get a hold of her. If it already had a connection, though, it would retain that. I don't think her heart would make much difference at that point, though, once AM gets a connection it's entirely down to her mental strength to resist him.
The last time it's not much of an issue. By that point, since Archer OC knows the source of the problem, he can fix it. The only reason he didn't do that the Ninth or Eighth time is because he doesn't know the source of the Shadow having completely forgotten it's connection to Sakura, since it's been over a decade since he played the game by that point. He's already had to deal with his own (if lesser) taint for a long time and knows tricks to teach her, and if everything else fails, he has Holy (capital H in fact) items which can lock down on that taint for her, not purge it, but keep it from affecting her mind (provided she doesn't draw on it).

... actually, I think I'll go with him giving up one of his few items that he uses for that exact reason to her. Tapping more into his own taint to make up for the fact that he's giving up a portion of his power in the form of his heart.

The main reason he removes the heart has less to do with keeping AM from affecting her so much as to kill Zouken really, really dead.

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Fanfiction / Re: the OC corner
« on: February 14, 2014, 07:22:49 PM »
Eeee! OC threads always make me smile.  :3

Anyways, I'm currently in the draft form of a relatively monstrous fic that follows this OC in a completely unintended romp through the multiverse. He starts out as a relatively normal person who accidentally pisses off a traveling alternate Zeltrech and gets cursed to travel through the Kaleidoscope to "go be a hero elsewhere brat". This ends up getting him summoned as an Archer Servant by Rin during the Fifth Holy Grail War with absolutely no bonuses or powers because of it.

Every time he fails in the HGW he gets sent back out into the Kaleidoscope and to a growing number of other worlds. While he's summoned to a new HGW each time, he ends up returning to the same other realities repeatedly, like a pendulum that has more mass added at the top of each swing. Each time, desperately getting stronger to avoid dying and save those that he grows close to.

The first profile is of him at the beginning of the fic, while the second is of him after over two decades of being forced to be a hero either by having replaced the protagonist of a series or by being close to one and his morals unwilling to let him sit idly by.

Spoiler for "Too much words!":
Name: [REDACTED] (TBA)
Race: Human (Servant?)
Class: Archer
Master: Tohsaka Rin
Age: 23
Height: 5' 6''
Weight: 140 lbs.
Eyes: Green
Hair: Brown
Appearance: A lean, relatively fit young man, not unattractive, but with deep-set eyes and pale skin, the occasional dark freckle standing out starkly against it.
Alignment: Lawful Good

Stats
Strength: E-
Agility: E-
Endurance: E-
Mana: N/A
Luck: A
Noble Phantasm: D


Skills:[/b]
Living Spirit: EX - Archer is as close to unique amongst the infinite variety of Servants in the Kaleidoscope as can be. He is a truly living person, ripped from other realities and bound as a Servant in a Class. Archer may respire prana on his own, requiring little to no support from his master, though he still requires a Master as an arcane anchor to the world.

Independent Action: E- - Archer was a follower rather than a leader before becoming a Servant and as such, he has an insultingly low rank in this skill for his class. Archer may remain in the world even without accepting Prana from his master for 30 turns.

Prodigy: C - The Servant is able to learn at an absolutely prodigious speed provided certain conditions are met about either how the knowledge is gained or the type of knowledge itself. Many Shonen heroes have this ability related to their specialization or to combat, allowing them to learn in days what most learn in decades. When Archer is being taught a skill, he learns 30 times faster than a normal person.

Encyclopedic Knowledge: C - As a result of his Prodigy skill over the course of his life, Archer has a wide range of knowledge to draw from in many disciplines.


Noble Phantasms:
Impossible Knowledge: B - Archer bears knowledge from the depths of the Kaleidoscope, knowing things that he should not know, having come from a universe in which the world of the Holy Grail War is fiction.

Other Traits:
Charisma: E
Intelligence: A+

Affinity: Understanding / Learning

Element: Ether


Background: A relatively normal, if a bit weird, young man. Born in America and having lived their his entire, relatively short life, he has not had to deal with the hardships of life, but has seen both poverty and providence in those he was friends with. Having had a loving, middle-class family and no terrible luck befalling them, he has been sheltered from the worst of humanity, but has sought to learn about it. An unabashed nerd, he chose to go to college for accounting, but during the course of his job while in college, he had the horrendous luck of trying to stop an alternate, drunk Zeltrech from leaving the establishment without paying...

Personality:Pleasant and soft spoken, he prefers to avoid confrontation and to listen rather than to talk. He doesn't really mind people walking all over him or following orders, and is willing to change his opinion on many things and readily accept criticism. But with the few things he feels strongly about, he is absurdly stubborn. While lazy, he has no issues doing work, just trouble remembering to do so. Earnest, honest to a fault,  eager to please and see the good of people and the world around him, he's far more cynical than he initially appears.

Weakness: N/A
Likes: Cats, Writing, Sleeping, Reading, Cuddling, Cooking, Science
Dislikes: Idiocy, Tomatoes, Cruelty
Talents: Cooking, Cleaning, Writing, Learning, Mathamatics, Physics, Accounting, Business

This one is still open to revision, heavily, especially if people say that this seems overpowered (which I'm heavily concerned about honestly >_< ).  But this is the second draft of his 'final' strength in the Fate universe in this fic.

... man that was a lot of qualifiers on that statement...  :-[
Spoiler for "Too much words!":
Name: [REDACTED] (TBA)
Race: Human (Servant?)
Class: Archer
Master: Tohsaka Rin
Age: ~55
Height: 6' 3''
Weight: 340 lbs.
Eyes: Left Eye - Bright violet with runic inscriptions ; Right Eye - Metallic crimson with a vertical pupil and a silver 'white'
Hair: Brown with streaks of gray and silver
Appearance: A lean, relatively fit man, the years have not been kind to him. While not unattractive, scars mar his face, the only exposed portion of his body, one stretching from the corner of his mouth across his cheek, another set of claw marks over his left eye and eyelid, his right ear ragged from some old blow. Small scars and the occasional dark freckle stands out starkly against his pale skin.
Alignment: Lawful Good

Stats
Strength: C+
Agility: C+
Endurance: B+
Mana: C (A+)
Luck: E (A)
Noble Phantasm: EX


Skills:[/b]
Battle Continuation: A+ - While Lancer’s represents his determination to never give up and Berserkers represents his ability to not die, Archer’s represents a combination of his resilient body and his intense regenerative abilities. Any wound that is not decisively fatal will be healed within a day unless it bypasses his regeneration. Dragon-Bane weapons, weapons of sunlight or purifying weapons bypass his regeneration.
Uniquely, the only truly fatal blow for Archer is a blow to the head. Archer has multiple hearts that may be damaged or destroyed without damaging his spiritual core.

Divinity: D - While himself not a demigod, Archer has stolen the spark of divinity from a powerful Demigod of Murder.

Item Creation: EX - Archer is known as the King of All Craftsmen, and the title is not given lightly. He has crafted or improved upon each of his Noble Phantasms, and may create even A rank Noble Phantasms of all types given time and materials.

Living Spirit: EX - Archer is as close to unique amongst the infinite variety of Servants in the Kaleidoscope as can be. He is a truly living person, ripped from other realities and bound as a Servant in a Class. Archer may respire prana on his own, requiring little to no support from his master, though he still requires a Master as an arcane anchor to the world.

Independent Action: B - Archer has fought alone for years, but far more often at the head of or as part of a small team. As was a follower rather than a leader before becoming a Servant and as such, he has an insultingly low rank in this skill for his class. Archer may remain in the world even without accepting Prana from his master for 30 turns.

Prodigy: B - The Servant is able to learn at an absolutely prodigious speed provided certain conditions are met about either how the knowledge is gained or the type of knowledge itself. Many Shonen heroes have this ability related to their specialization or to combat, allowing them to learn in days what most learn in decades. When Archer is being taught a skill, he learns 40 times faster than a normal person.

Reservoir of Knowledge: A+ - Archer has a massive pool of knowledge and skills to draw from. It can reasonably be assumed that he is able to perform any learnable skill at minimum of D rank. He is able to use the following skills at B rank: Bravery, Charisma, Riding, Eye of the Mind (True), Presence Concealment, Instinct, and Military Tactics.

Tainted Blood: A - Archer has been tainted and corrupted by a half dozen different sources, sometimes deliberately, other times not. But he mastered each in turn, and as such, has gained an immense resistance to corruption and evil magics, even the mightiest of them having little to no effect. However, purifying and holy magics increase their effect against him by two ranks.

Transformation: EX - Archer can transform into one, and only one other form. That of a Dragon.
In this form, Archer is unable to use his Noble Phantasms other than Impossible Knowledge, Eyes of the Demon, and Fateless. Most of his skills are useless as well, but his Strength, Agility, Endurance, Mana, and Magic Resistance are all EX rated in this form.

Traveler's Magic: EX - Archer has a solid understanding of many different forms of magic of many different disciplines and is considered an Archmage in many worlds. While the amount of prana he has available is relatively small, he can do things with it that would boggle the minds of even Mages from the Age of Gods and is far more efficient with it when casting spells than would normally be assumed. His effective Mana rating is noted in his statline.
This Skill represents Archer possessing the following skills at A rank: Territory Creation, Thaumaturgy, Rune Magic, Arcane Language, Mana Manipulation, Fade Magic, Clairvoyance, Psionics, and Witchcraft.

Weaponmaster: A - Archer mystically resonates with any weapon he wields, and may lay claim to any weapon he touches. He may use any item with the trait of 'Weapon' as if he had been training with it his entire life, and while holding such an item, he increases all of his physical stats and skill by half a rank. This is already accounted for in his statline as his ever-present armor counts as a weapon.



Noble Phantasms:
Impossible Knowledge: B - Archer bears knowledge from the depths of the Kaleidoscope, knowing things that he should not know, having come from a universe in which the world of the Holy Grail War is fiction.

Armor of the Traveler: The Armor of Barriers, The Armor of Invincibility, Hide of the Demonic Dragon[/b]
Rank: EX Support Phantasm
Range: 0
Maximum Number of Targets: 1
The greatest work of the greatest craftsman, this is Archer's true Phantasm. It is one of the most powerful Defensive and Support Phantasms to ever exist, a suit of armor combines magic from the Age of Gods and technology from both far flung potential futures and distant pasts.

Any attack with a physical presence in the world has its power reduced by four ranks as its power is converted harmlessly into light. Additionally, the power of any elemental or physical attack is reduced by a further four ranks as they are stopped by azure ripples in space.

The armor has a final barrier, a combination of mighty technology and powerful magic. Crystalizing Mana and plasma around the wearer, creating a glowing field and runic inscriptions around them while active. In Fuyuki City or other Leyline areas, it allows Archer to ignore any attack of B rank or lower. An attack that pierces this defense has its power reduced by 4 ranks, but reduces the strength of this barrier by half a rank. In areas of normal prana distribution, the power of this defense is reduced.

The armor proper is effectively indestructible; any attack of C rank after piercing his shields simply fails to affect him. It reduces the power of any attack that hits Archer by three ranks.

In addition to its numerous lesser effects, the armor may shift its appearance at a minimal prana cost, appearing to all natural senses to be its new form, but it's protections and weight do not change. The armor also increases its wearers’ physical stats by one rank, though this is already accounted for in Archer's statline, for his armor is everpresent.

Arsenal Bow: The Bow which Shatters Mountains
Rank: A+ Anti-Unit or Anti-Continent Phantasm
Range: 3 - 999
Maximum Number of Targets: 10000
This massive recurve bow stands as tall as Archer himself and its center is far bulkier than normal. Any arrow fired from this bow flies at an astounding speed, few arrows can even survive the hypersonic transit. Anything fired by the bow also swerves around obstacles as it seeks its target. This bow is used by Archer to fire blades from his Arsenal of the Traveler at his foes like Arrows.
 
Arsenal of the Traveler:
Rank: D - A+ Anti-Personnel through Anti-Army
Range: N/A
Maximum Number of Targets: N/A
An arsenal of weapons collected from the depths of the Kalediscope and crafted by Archer’s own hands. Weapons from potential future and Ages of the Gods, weapons of advanced technology and powerful magic.

Some standouts in this arsenal include Derflinger, the Null Magic sword, Babbo, the Hammer and Flail, the Widowmaker, a rifle that fires slugs of metal at hypersonic speeds, Deadeye, the plasma sniper that fires concentrated blasts of superheated plasma, and Carsomyr, a powerful holy blade.

Barrier Shield: The Unbreakable Walls
Rank: A+++ Support Phantasm
Range: 1 - 50
Maximum Number of Targets: 500
Based on the same defensive principles as his armor, the Barrier Shield is an extremely powerful defensive phantasm in of itself. Creating a plane of various crystalized forces in front of the shield proper. Its defensive barriers are identical to that of his armor, and the shield proper may stop any blow of B rank or less.

Unlike his armor, the Barrier shield may spread its barriers to encompass a much larger area rather than just the user, shielding even a small town from an attack.

The shield itself is very large and heavy, being nearly 60 cm in diameter and able to witstand absolutely tremendous forces, it can be used as a D rank weapon in of itself with its' sharpened edges.

Eyes of the Demon:
Rank: C Support Phantasm
Range: 1 - 35
Maximum Number of Targets: 1
Archer's eyes pierce through all illusions regardless of their rank and allow him to perform D-rank Hypnosis or D-Rank Stat reduction on any that meet his gaze.

Fateless:
Rank: A Anti-Fate Phantasm
Range: N/A
Maximum Number of Targets: N/A
Archer is utterly immune to the powers of Fate, Destiny, and Luck. No effect drawing on these can touch him unless he chooses otherwise. Increase the power of his attacks against those particularly bound by Fate by one rank.

Archer has no luck one way or the other, represented by his E-rank Luck stat. But he may choose to have whatever luck rating he desires when facing a Luck Check provided he is aware of it.

Interitus: The Screaming Blade of Annihilation
Rank: A+++ Anti-Reality
Range: 1 - 99
Maximum Number of Targets: 1000
Archers’ most powerful sword Phantasm, it is a designed by Archer, for Archer.

An Unholy weapon of hatred, corruption, and destruction. Dense and heavy in both matter and prana, the blade is effectively indestructible and impossibly sharp, forged from materials beyond the earth and beyond reality. The blade vibrates at absurd speeds, moaning while at rest shrieking while swung and screaming like twisting metal and tortured souls as it cuts, tearing through anything it hits like a chainsaw even as it shakes it apart from the inside.

When invoked, the blade causes random, extreme fluctuations of space and time around the blade, tearing apart reality even as it brings it close to absolute zero and tears apart matter in a wave of power, rendering the world as it would be after the heat-death of the universe. The same way that Ea could be called the sword that reveals the world Before the Beginning, Interitus reveals the world After the End. As such, their effects cancel one another out. While, when fully charged by prana and spells from Archer, Interitus has an attack power of 'merely' 500 compared to Ea's 4000, Interitus is the direct counter to Ea and will cancel each other out at anything short of Ea's full power.

However, against Holy or the powers of light or purification, Interitus is weakened considerably, making Excalibur the perfect counter to the Screaming Blade.


Other Traits:
Charisma: B
Intelligence: A++

Affinity: Understanding / Learning

Element: Ether


Background: A relatively normal, if a bit weird, young man. Born in America and having lived their his entire, relatively short life, he has not had to deal with the hardships of life, but has seen both poverty and providence in those he was friends with. Having had a loving, middle-class family and no terrible luck befalling them, he has been sheltered from the worst of humanity, but has sought to learn about it. An unabashed nerd, he chose to go to college for accounting, but during the course of his job while in college, he had the horrendous luck of trying to stop an alternate, drunk Zeltrech from leaving the establishment without paying...

Having spent over two and a half decades in near constant combat and war, Archer has gained an immeasurable amount of experience and pain. He has fought demons and demigods, fallen angels and fae, and is both a Dragon-Slayer and a Dragon-Knight. He is a Mangus who wears armor, a swordsman who will use guns, a knight that will attack from stealth, and dozens of other seeming contradictions. He has seen the best and the worst humanity has to offer, and while he has cracked and bent, he has not broken. He has been reforged stronger in heart and purpose than before, and even if he was to die a failure, he would die without regrets.

Personality:Pleasant and generally soft spoken, he prefers to listen rather than to talk. While he is willing to change his opinions about people for the better, his ideals and morals are set in stone. He readily accepts criticism but is unrepentant of mistakes, for he has done the best he could with the information he had, the only thing he can do now is to get better. Authorative and charismatic, he is accustomed to being in command or an expert in a situation, but readily and happily allows those better suited to a situation to take command. While lazy, he has no issues doing work, just trouble remembering to do so. In spite of all that he's seen, he is still earnest, honest to a fault, eager to please, and quick to see the good in people and the world around him.

Weakness: Holy Magic, Dragon-Slaying Effects, Purifying Effects
Likes: Cats, Writing, Sleeping, Reading, Cuddling, Cooking, Magic, Science, Creation
Dislikes: Idiocy, Tomatoes, Cruelty, Intense Sunlight
Talents: Cooking, Cleaning, Writing, Learning, Mathematics, Physics, Accounting, Business


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Also, are there any OCs that people want looked at? I haven't had time to go through the whole thread yet and any standouts that people still want looked at I'd be happy to do so ^_^

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: February 14, 2014, 03:32:23 AM »
Fair enough. As long as it doesn't actually happen I guess it's not really an issue....
Not in any of the Fate universes, but it does come up in others.

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Generally no, but I've had to deal with hear trouble and did research on it because of that. The transfered heart (due to the size difference between the two of them) would press more against her left lung than the original did. While this would cause discomfort, it would not be lethal and the body would adapt. Heavy exertion wouldn't be a good idea until she had, and were it a normal heart, too much cardio even afterwards might risk bruising the heart (not fatal but painful and risky) but... well, it's not a normal heart. However, the size difference isn't that big in the first place. It's large enough to have an effect, but not to be ridiculous.

Ah, OK.

Well, a bit of discomfort is nothing compared with what Zouken is putting her through anyway....
Pretty much my thoughts.

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Hrm. Then I have to address that... any thoughts?

Well, I guess it depends. Shirou survives with Archer's arm attached to him, after all. And, the fact that he's even more of a normal human than Archer might help. He might not have quite the same spiritual presence.
That was my original thought, but there is the problem that this guy is inherently tainted. He was tainted deliberately in order to increase his resistance to further tainting (specifically Dragon Age, he gets drawn into the Gray Wardens) which actually makes him immune to the Blackening that the Shadow performs (though it still kicks him out of existence), but this brings up the problem of how Sakura's body would handle that. Even if there's no real 'spiritual' component to worry about or even any of his blood still in the heart, this is magic we're talking about here. That and yay vampire.

I haven't gotten through Heavens Feel route yet personally so I'm not sure how that would affect her.

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The problem is that the way you're going about it is going to look horribly contrived. There is no reason Rin should die over a completely powerless servant when the servant is the logical first target. Especially since Rin is probably a match for most masters and can hold off a servant for a bit. It happening once makes sense, it happening multiple times seems just bizarre.
The first time is purely him being 'Lucky' and her not, Gilgamesh rains death down on a large group (most of the other Servants and masters) at once, and while Archer OC and Rin both go off to the side as 'Masters' to stay out of the fight, Gilgamesh doesn't accept this since Archer OC is the one who essentially started the fight. Rin just happens to get hit before Archer OC and he has essentially no prana or Independent Action at that point.

The second time, when Berserker attacks, Rin actually tries to protect Archer OC since he has no combat ability whatsoever and Saber isn't able to hold off Berserker on her own. At this point, while Archer OC isn't a coward, he's not Shirou either and panics, getting and staying out of the way, and Rin gets bissected. Rin reasons that since Archer has no combat ability and she's the one who summoned him, he's her responsibility (he's explained his situation to her).

The third time, he's barely competent and equipped enough to fight and almost gets killed when Berserker nearly bisects him. The only reason he isn't bisected and very very dead is because Berserker had to hit through a shield and his armor and Rin uses a Command Seal to make him escape, but it kicks him out of existence and back into the kalediscope, removing him from that world. That and in the next world his companions use up all of their healing magic to save him.

The fourth time they're attacked by Berserker and Illya early on as per canon, but when Shirou leaps in front of the attack meant for Saber (since even between the two of them, they can't handle Berserker for obvious reasons), but for reasons that Archer OC doesn't figure out, Illya doesn't have Berserker stop after basically bisecting Shirou. Archer OC has Rin make a contract with Saber on the spot, and Saber ends up using Excalibur, Archer OC stops draining Rin's prana to avoid hurting her... but finds himself fading almost immediately since he has so little prana... but decides to go with it since he's not a viable Servant and it's not killing him.
(This one was revised from the original based on the whole Independant Action thing)

The fifth time, after a solid showing, he gets hit by Rule Breaker and avoids letting Caster take him as a Servant, using his anti-magic blade to take her down before he dissapates. Rin being unable to make a new contract with him before he fades out.
(Again somewhat revised from the original, this time he has the time to actually take out Caster rather than just immediately fading out).

The sixth time, after a decent showing (and getting Rider/Sakura involved as an alliance of Rin, Shirou and Sakura) he gets opened up by Berserker again and Rin tries to force him to turn into Astral form using a Command Seal to save him. since he hadn't mentioned what he was to her this time (a mistake), and ends up getting forced out of existence again instead.

The seventh time, after a very solid showing it ends up with a fight of Archer OC and Berserker vs Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh pulls out Ea and between Berserker and Archer OC's armor/shield/magic of ridiculousness they survive a mid-power blast from it, the surprise of Gilgamesh giving Archer OC enough of an opening to shoot Gilgamesh in the head with a technomagic gun... and then realize that Rin and Shirou and Sakura were all behind him and Berserker when Gilgamesh used Ea... Archer's newly E-rank Luck making a showing. He survived without his master long enough for the combat and uses up the healing potions he has to try and save the others, starting with Rin and then moving to Shirou and then to Sakura, but he fades out before he can since his link with Rin was broken.
(Again, slightly revised)

The eighth time, between himself and the others, they take out Berserker, Caster, Assassin, and Lancer, but before Gilgamesh shows up, the Shadow makes an appearance and drains Archer OC of prana and tries to blacken him... but ends up just making him dissipate. Archer OC never realizes that Sakura was the source of the Shadow.

The ninth time is much like the Eighth, but Saber is blackened first and Archer OC ends up having to hold her off while Shirou and Rin try to save Sakura. But Saber is basically the worst possible opponent for Archer OC and while he wins, he ends up using the last of his Prana to do so and Rin was killed by Psycho-Sakura so Archer OC fades out.

The tenth time, Archer OC ends up essentially winning the war, this being the time that he actually saves Sakura since he knows to do so, the other Servants being non-issues at this point.

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But as for the servant thing... why? If that was the case, and Saber was just a soul summoned by the Grail like the others, why couldn't she assume astral form?

Well, Saber is still counted as "alive" but, at the same time, she is still clearly a spirit. She requires prana to survive and she just fades into nothingness when she is defeated. I also find it unlikely that killing Saber in the Grail War would prevent her returning to her body.
True.

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Sorry >_<

Though he picks up so many abilities because he does need them, but they're far more often tailored to the realm which he's in at the time. The ability to alter Fate and Destiny and being immune to it isn't worth much in F/SN, but in Kingdoms of Amalur it's the defining trait of the protagonist. A lot of the abilities are like that.

Ah, OK.

Well, one issue I can see here is that a massive cross-over fic like this with an OC protagonist is going to require knowledge of a lot of different works to be readable.
Oh yeah, I've been hashing out how best to make it easier on readers who are new to works to ease them into it. I've got a couple ideas, most of them involve people that he expects to look one way looking somewhat different so he does have to describe them in his head, as well as the OC himself being clueless as to where he is and learning with the readers.

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It's no problem, I'm happy to help, and you did come over to my forum to discuss it, so helping you out is the least I can do.
Still, I appreciate it ^_^

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: February 13, 2014, 03:41:52 AM »
I see, so he's a bit of an asshole, then?
Pretty much, yeah. Tries to be a nice guy, usually very pleasant, tries to do the best by everyone... but when the shit hits the fan, he can be kind of a dick. He'd very much pull a Kiritsugu and sacrifice one to save ten.  Remorse doesn't change the fact that yeah, he would.

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Well, I'm not sure how well the human body can cope with such things, but I'm pretty sure your heart can't just be "uncomfortable". If your heart is causing you pain or discomfort, it is probably not safe....
Generally no, but I've had to deal with hear trouble and did research on it because of that. The transfered heart (due to the size difference between the two of them) would press more against her left lung than the original did. While this would cause discomfort, it would not be lethal and the body would adapt. Heavy exertion wouldn't be a good idea until she had, and were it a normal heart, too much cardio even afterwards might risk bruising the heart (not fatal but painful and risky) but... well, it's not a normal heart. However, the size difference isn't that big in the first place. It's large enough to have an effect, but not to be ridiculous.

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If he's still using regular doses, how is Sakura going to survive long-term?
He's a unique case. She'll need a lot of it in the first place, but not over long term.

Ah, OK, I see.

It could be possible to get her an alternate heart later, though, or find a healer who could provide one.
Certainly, though this would probably weaken her after she'd adjusted. Archer OC has a dragon aspect to him almost identical to Saber Arturia, and as such, Sakura would literally be getting the heart of a dragon. Archer OC wouldn't be aware of this, but I like the concept for future use.

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If he fades away without an anchor then he still counts as a "servant" in this context, I think.
Hrm. Then I have to address that... any thoughts?

Not sure. It could be a temporary thing, especially if Rin still has her pendant (i.e. she doesn't need to use it to cure Shirou). Indeed, if Rin has the pendant she may well be able to remove or destroy the worm herself....
True. Hrm.

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Eaugh, that's... problematic...

... hrm... unless the Independant Action starts off really low... which would make sense.... hm...

Anyways, in the first few Wars, she does die before him. He has no skills or power or attributes other than his luck which saves him, but not her. That and Rulebreaker catches him off guard, he forgets that Medea has it between Wars since he never had to deal with it personally.

And he's a living being enough (and his summoning is enough of the Second Magic that) Gaia doesn't crush his existence so much as shunt him out (and thus, back into the Kaleidiscope).

At least that's the concept, because otherwise there's no resolution for him in the HGW other than death or victory, and since death for him would be permanent, this is just kinda sorta maye a LOT of a bad thing.

Honestly, I think the whole "death" mechanic here is somewhat contrived as it stands. Having him avoid death in several wars by sheer luck is going to come across looking weird, and I see no logical reason why him getting crushed by the world would have a different effect to him just dying.

As a servant, you don't have a normal body. You are basically just a soul in a container. To be summoned and controlled as a servant that has to be the case. It is possible for the soul to survive the war and return to a body after (like with Saber), but I don't think you could do what you're going for here and still have the guy logically treated as a servant.
In the current draft (which could change obviously) it's only full on luck based survival in the very first few, afterwards its mostly Rin dying or him getting caught by something that severs their connection. Usually her dying because he's a shit Servant. He almost dies multiple times and is healed in the next world he travels to, usually desperately.

Admittedly, it is a bit contrived, but I really don't want to remove the 'drama' of him dying, because hey! He'll be back to try again next time! It really hurts the drama when that's possible, especially in the most dramatically lethal world. If he can die without any real consequences... it really removes a lot of the drama, at least in my ability to write it.

But as for the servant thing... why? If that was the case, and Saber was just a soul summoned by the Grail like the others, why couldn't she assume astral form?

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Well, sure, the question is how you justify that in-story....
That's going to be justified by a relatively large fic. He goes through a significant amount of crap for most of the things he gains, with a few exceptions.

The problem is that I don't want to create an overpowered character if I can help it, which is why I'm trying to talk to people about it :)

My issue here is more how you justify him not having some of these abilities. Although, I'm not sure why exactly he's picking so many up when he doesn't need them....
Sorry >_<

Though he picks up so many abilities because he does need them, but they're far more often tailored to the realm which he's in at the time. The ability to alter Fate and Destiny and being immune to it isn't worth much in F/SN, but in Kingdoms of Amalur it's the defining trait of the protagonist. A lot of the abilities are like that.

And I don't think I've said so yet, but I really appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me, it's really nice to have someone intelligent to bounce the ideas off of  :)

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: February 13, 2014, 12:25:13 AM »
There should have been an 'else' in there mind you, my bad.

Though like I said, would really prefer not to. He's not Shirou and doesn't have a hitch in his head about "Saving Everyone", but he'd definitely prefer to when possible.  It's honestly a horrible act, but given the choice between ending her life and letting her go crazy and end the lives of an uncountable number of other people? He would kill her. He'd also justify it to himself after the fact if he had to do it, he's not a 'perfect' hero.

So he'd murder an innocent girl in cold blood because she might go insane and murder everyone? Seems rather unheroic to me....
This is a misunderstanding, when she's already gone insane and trying to murder people, not before. He'd be willing to murder her if she was starting to go insane, but this is explicitly not heroic, I agree. This is a horrible thing, but it's a part of the character. He almost certainly couldn't be summoned by a non-tainted grail.

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In order: 1). Medical knowledge combined with healing magic from other universes, connecting it in of itself is not difficult, though it's somewhat larger than her original heart, it likely would be in similar size to that of hers + the worm

I don't think the worm is particularly large, although I'm not sure the size is that big an issue.
Me either! Just making note. It'd be uncomfortable for her then just due to size.

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2). Future medicine specifically made for that purpose and that he has because something almost identical was done to him in more controlled circumstances. He has the materials on him because he (due to the ridiculous proliferation of his implants and the variety) still needs regular doses of it and had to learn how to make it.

If he's still using regular doses, how is Sakura going to survive long-term?
He's a unique case. She'll need a lot of it in the first place, but not over long term.

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The Servant part I'm not actually sure applies since he's not a Heroic Spirit. I'm willing to listen to arguments either way on that.

If he fades away without an anchor then he still counts as a "servant" in this context, I think.
Hrm. Then I have to address that... any thoughts?

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Really? I would've thought this would've replaced that skill. The effect is similar, but it suits him better. That and it would mean the only way to remove him from the War is to kill him since there's no reason a living person couldn't respire prana naturally and if he's dead... well... he's dead.

Well, Independant Action is a different thing. It means the servant can survive for longer without an anchor. It's part of the class container for an Archer-class servant, so it's something he should have. It doesn't mean he'd live forever, though, it just means being without a master is not instantly fatal.

Also, if he dies when he is killed as a servant, then how does he survive the first few wars? Rin would never die or lose her contract before he did. And, I'm not sure how exactly that helps him, anyway. Getting physically killed as a servant and getting your existence crushed by the world has the exact same effect.
Eaugh, that's... problematic...

... hrm... unless the Independant Action starts off really low... which would make sense.... hm...

Anyways, in the first few Wars, she does die before him. He has no skills or power or attributes other than his luck which saves him, but not her. That and Rulebreaker catches him off guard, he forgets that Medea has it between Wars since he never had to deal with it personally.

And he's a living being enough (and his summoning is enough of the Second Magic that) Gaia doesn't crush his existence so much as shunt him out (and thus, back into the Kaleidiscope).

At least that's the concept, because otherwise there's no resolution for him in the HGW other than death or victory, and since death for him would be permanent, this is just kinda sorta maye a LOT of a bad thing.

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Touche', but this is a 'Servant' with magic, swords, armor, bows, an 'effective' Reality Marble (Creating a demiplane and dropping everyone into it mid combat), transforming into a dragon... there's gotta be a point where you say enough's enough. While part of this guy's trick is having the appropriate response for a problem, there's a point where the reader (and myself) go "You've got to be shitting me" in a negative fashion  :laugh:

Well, sure, the question is how you justify that in-story....
That's going to be justified by a relatively large fic. He goes through a significant amount of crap for most of the things he gains, with a few exceptions.

The problem is that I don't want to create an overpowered character if I can help it, which is why I'm trying to talk to people about it :)

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: February 12, 2014, 06:59:50 PM »
While he's willing to do so if it means saving everyone he never gets the chance to do so and he really would prefer not to.

I'm not entirely sure how murdering an innocent girl in cold blood is compatible with "saving everyone"....
There should have been an 'else' in there mind you, my bad.

Though like I said, would really prefer not to. He's not Shirou and doesn't have a hitch in his head about "Saving Everyone", but he'd definitely prefer to when possible.  It's honestly a horrible act, but given the choice between ending her life and letting her go crazy and end the lives of an uncountable number of other people? He would kill her. He'd also justify it to himself after the fact if he had to do it, he's not a 'perfect' hero.

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One of the drafts I currently have is of him ripping out Sakura's heart, worm and all before replacing it with one of his own that he rips from his own chest.

Well, firstly how would he make the heart connect, secondly how would he ensure she didn't reject the heart due to incompatibility (or due to it being part of a servant...) and thirdly what about him?
In order: 1). Medical knowledge combined with healing magic from other universes, connecting it in of itself is not difficult, though it's somewhat larger than her original heart, it likely would be in similar size to that of hers + the worm

2). Future medicine specifically made for that purpose and that he has because something almost identical was done to him in more controlled circumstances. He has the materials on him because he (due to the ridiculous proliferation of his implants and the variety) still needs regular doses of it and had to learn how to make it. The Servant part I'm not actually sure applies since he's not a Heroic Spirit. I'm willing to listen to arguments either way on that.

3). He has multiple hearts, explicitly. A quirk of all the things he goes through ensures that he has a total of 3 organic hearts and one mechanical one distributed throughout his torso. This is also why he is able to ease the transfer of his heart to her.

He has a primary heart and a secondary heart that are always beating, but a tertiary heart that only starts beating in stressful situations as well as the mechanical heart as a further backup in case the above are destroyed. While giving up a heart weakens him (the secondary heart as its the only one similar enough to a normal persons to function as one), he's still able to keep functioning and would, eventually, regrow the heart due to his regeneration. Not on the timescale of the HGW, but it would regrow.

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Independent Action is a class skill, though, it's one he should have even if his own nature means he wouldn't possess it.
Really? I would've thought this would've replaced that skill. The effect is similar, but it suits him better. That and it would mean the only way to remove him from the War is to kill him since there's no reason a living person couldn't respire prana naturally and if he's dead... well... he's dead.

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Well, that's somewhat logical but, then, a Reality Marble is not exactly what you'd expect from an Archer-class servant either....
Touche', but this is a 'Servant' with magic, swords, armor, bows, an 'effective' Reality Marble (Creating a demiplane and dropping everyone into it mid combat), transforming into a dragon... there's gotta be a point where you say enough's enough. While part of this guy's trick is having the appropriate response for a problem, there's a point where the reader (and myself) go "You've got to be shitting me" in a negative fashion  :laugh:

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: February 12, 2014, 06:05:41 PM »
Hmm, I see.

I'm hoping the solution to this problem isn't "kill Sakura"....
While he's willing to do so if it means saving everyone he never gets the chance to do so and he really would prefer not to. One of the drafts I currently have is of him ripping out Sakura's heart, worm and all before replacing it with one of his own that he rips from his own chest.

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He also has the unusual problem for an Archer that the moment he loses his connection to his Master, for whatever reason (her death, or even something like Rule-breaker) he dissipates within moments.

Why?
His only anchor to whatever reality he's in is his master or some other thing that he's mystically bonded to. While he doesn't need prana to support him since he's still fully alive and not on the precipice of death like Saber is (whatever her nebulous state she's really in), he does need something to hold him there. Without a connection to that reality, he starts fading away immediately, especially since he doesn't know how to hold himself in place until much later, when the point is moot. In theory, by the 8th Swing or so, he could stay in a reality indefinitely provided effort, but by that point he never gets the chance. His connection to Rin is severed for various reasons and he's too busy not dying to otherwise anchor himself again.

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Well, "it's hax" isn't a reason to deny him an NP that he would logically have. Ea is "hax", after all. You need a more concrete justification why he wouldn't have it than that.
Very, very true.

Part of it is because he's an Archer, at least in these situations. While he could qualify for any class (Lancer and Rider having the weakest justifications in his 'legend'), Caster, Archer, and Saber are the one's he's best suited for (in order from best to worst).

While turning into a Dragon is definitely a part of his 'legend', as well as slaying dragons (seriously, he ends up slaying somewhere around eight full grown dragons, something I hadn't intended when I first started this up, but a natural consequence of him being part of the stories he is), it doesn't really fit the Archer part of his 'legend', no more than his sword does, or his bow suiting the Saber class. Though that brings up the problem of which class would theoretically get that ability.

That and I'm uncomfortable with him having so many EX rated anythings as he does. While I could be misjudging ranks (entirely plausible), it still seems really awkward and weird to have 4 EX rated things.  :-[

Side Note: Ea is basically the definition of "teh haxxorz", it's just freaking ridiculous :laugh:

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: February 12, 2014, 05:25:21 PM »
Well, isn't Dark Sakura easy enough to handle if you know about her past? You just find a way to deworm her and kill Zouken before it gets that far....
Honestly? Yeah, but the Shadow blind-sides him one time, and he lacks a way to really de-worm her as well as kill Zouken, at least initially. Lucky or not, his knowledge isn't perfect and he gets caught with his pants down, especially since he's focusing on not dying by Berserker.

He also has the unusual problem for an Archer that the moment he loses his connection to his Master, for whatever reason (her death, or even something like Rule-breaker) he dissipates within moments.

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Well, it's hard to say. To some extent, I think the answer is probably "he is restricted as much as you want him to be". It depends on the power of the master too, though. A weak master will limit their servant a lot more.
Well, his master is consistently Rin, he's summoned into another iteration of the same War again and again by her (in place of EMIYA), so he's got a powerful master.

My initial thoughts so far are that he can't turn into a Dragon, because that's just kind of hax even compared to stuff like Excalibur. But other than that, I have trouble figuring out how he'd be limited.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions thread
« on: February 12, 2014, 04:29:12 PM »
Actually, from the summary I've been hammering out of the fic, he gets very close to winning the war starting at the fourth swing. The problems are Gilgamesh, running out of luck, and Dark Sakura.

And yeah, I don't know either, that's why I'm trying to get other people's thoughts  8) I don't expect hard and fast rules so much as general feelings and thoughts on it :)

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Fanfiction / Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« on: February 12, 2014, 04:25:00 PM »
Normal person meets an alternate (and drunk, and dickish) Zeltretch and tees them off. Cue getting cursed and cast out into the Kaleidoscope. But this is a guy with A rank luck, and it shows that he doesn't get royally, *royally* screwed over.

He gets thrown into other realities, but usually near other young heroes or people just getting started as being heroes, or occasionally in the place of the normal hero for that world (near the protagonists of other series or replacing the protagonist of a series) and he struggles with them, saved by others or his own luck and growing skill, until he randomly goes careening through the Kaleidoscope again until he ends back up at the Holy Grail War, summoned as Archer again.

Each time he leaves the Holy Grail War, he visits the same dimensions in the same order, but adds more to each time. Sort of like a Pendulum that gets more mass at the apex of each swing, he travels further through the multiverse before ending back up at the same places.

The only reason this guy survives early on is his A rank luck. He outright, straight up gets fucking lucky, no two ways about it. He ends up with people that train him or train with him  in low-power / low-ridiculousness settings at the beginning, and its only later, as he becomes more competent, that he ends up thrown into more dangerous worlds/settings (aside from F/SN).

This guy also has that 'Prodigy' skill, which I like to think of 'Shonen Hero Power', because it represents his ability to learn at a ridiculous pace (While not as ridiculous as learning a skill that takes decades to master in a manner of days, it's still unfair).

Does that answer your question? :)

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