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General Discussion / Re: New Fate/Stay Night Anime Announced!
« on: November 13, 2013, 10:30:52 PM »
Your link is dead- here's a valid one:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/11/09-1/ufotable-fatestay-night-anime-announcement-finally-coming

But Saber may just be prominent because she's mainly what they use to advertise their stuff. I don't think that really shifts it towards one route or another.

But personally, I'm hoping they adapt all three routes myself. Though quite personally, I'd like a Unlimited Blade Works remake in general, because the movie DEEN did for it was terrible.

I am also hoping that they will adapt all three routes, it will feel more complete. And who knows, a Fate/hollow ataraxia anime later.

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Anime and Manga / Re: sailor moon
« on: November 07, 2013, 09:45:45 PM »
Read the manga, it makes so much more sense.  Especially the Queen Beryl arc.

And you get stuff like Tuxedo Mask has a personality!  Hints that Usagi is bisexual!   Also, Usagi also has a personality and it's very likeable!  I like the fact she starts as the whiny, crybaby but quickly develops into this figure that will do anything to protect her friends and loved ones, while not the smartest or strongest of the bunch, she's the most determined.

Seriously, I adore the manga.  Its shojo crack, but good shojo crack.

What about the Queen Beryl arc?

I also heard the SuperS arc in manga is much, much better.

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General Discussion / Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« on: November 07, 2013, 09:42:37 PM »
The King certainly has the option to grant a pardon, yes. That has always been the case.

Depending the situation.

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She's nothing like a Yandere. She spends most of HF feeling like she's not worthy for Shirou at all and just wanting to make sure he's happy, and when she turns Dark she barely cares about him at all.

And that what annoyed me out of her, acting that she is not worthy for Shirou and her jealously drama.

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Yeah, sure. I was just sying I never thought of it before because, to me, it was always obvious.

Although, honestly, if Japanese people could cope with it then it's probably not all that bad. I doubt the legend of King Arthur is particularly well-known over there either....

Who knows. I would still like for some background like that to have been added.

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No, I am the same, I don't buy mechandise of characters I'm not interested in.

However, to me, it seems utterly idiotic to decide that you like a character solely in order that you can buy merchandise of them. If you're going to do that, then why not just buy the merchandise anyway?

I don't see how pretending to like a character to buy merchandise of them is a more sensible choice than buying merchandise of characters you don't like.

I did not say it was totally necessary, I find it quite stupid though. Like I said, there are many shallow reasons of favoring characters.

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Visual Novels / Re: General Visual Novel thread
« on: November 06, 2013, 08:34:12 AM »
I have not read that many, neither I am too much into VNs, with an exception of what T-M makes.

Last VN I read  was Grisaia no Kajitsu and I became bored of it. I suppose it is not my type of VN.

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Anime and Manga / Re: sailor moon
« on: November 06, 2013, 08:30:22 AM »
I used to love it a lot when I was younger but after rewatching it recently, I felt bored. Mainly due to the filler episodes, the plot could be told in less episodes but this is Toei we are talking about. Some deus ex-machina moments also annoyed me but this is a shoujo anime, so it should be expected to a point.

I haven't read the manga, I am planning to read it and they say it is much better.

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Anime and Manga / Re: Digimon
« on: November 06, 2013, 08:27:31 AM »
First season was decent compared to the crappy Pokemon. There was a certain plot unlike it and at least Digimon died.

Second season introduced the new boring cast and made a 180 turn shift with deus ex-machina nonsense and suddenly anyone could be a DigiDestined. Full of plot holes, also.

Tamers was probably the best written since the script/series composition was made by the same person who did Serial Experiments Lain. And I found Ruki the most interesting female in all Digimon seasons.

Frontier was ridiculous. Mainly the human to digimon transformation.

Digimon Savers, I did not bother much, I do not have an opinion.

And I did not expect Digimon Xros Wars would be even more ridiculous than Frontier. They decided to make this season more like Pokemon.

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Video Games / Re: Fire Emblem Megathread
« on: November 06, 2013, 08:18:30 AM »
Do I miss anything if I only play Awakening?

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General Discussion / Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« on: November 06, 2013, 08:17:32 AM »

I honestly don't buy that argument. She was the king, of course she had options. I understand not wanting to break the law to favour herself, but in the case of Lancelot and Guineviere the law was only there to protect the king in the first place. It's utter nonsense to say that the king cannot grant clemency in such a situation, plenty of others did so.

Just because someone becomes a King, you think it is always up to him? Of course there are people around Kings that can manipulate them. And there are times where Kings have to tolerate certain situations. Arturia was quite young back then also, she could not have a full judgment.

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Yeah, I think that's a fair point (although I dispute the assertion that HF Sakura is a Yandere), although I think she is a fighter, just not in that manner. And, honestly, she doesn't get any option. If she tries to fight she can only make things worse, due to Zouken's control over her.

She was enough. Either way, just to know, she is my least likable female in F/SN.

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Well, it focussed on her as a character too. I would agree the route was less exciting, though.

It did but not to the point of exploring her background.

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Yeah, perhaps. I never really noticed that aspect since, as a British person, I have grown up with the legend and was already very familiar with it before I even read FSN.

Not everyone can be British, however.


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That seems like putting the cart before the horse to me. I mean, you don't have to like a character in order to purchase merchandise of them.

Are you serious? To me, it is wasted money and a foolish thing to do. I only buy merchandise (mainly figures) of characters I do like.

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Visual Novels / Re: General Otome Game thread
« on: November 05, 2013, 03:03:39 PM »
^ Wonderful but sadly, the translation has such a little progress for such a long game.

Now also, if they ever translated Shinigami to Shoujo... It looks pretty neat and I heard that it has a solid story.

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General Discussion / Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« on: November 05, 2013, 03:02:12 PM »

Personally I can't, really. I dislike the concept of Chivalry (to me it was just an excuse for the powerful to ensure that the wars they caused would have as little effect as possible on them, not to mention extremely sexist, especially the more modern concept of it) and I'm not too fond of Saber's overly-honourable and lawful nature, either. She seems to follow rules just because they're rules, and to me that is idiotic.

I do not think she had that many options though, especially as a King back then. Such ages were different and of course the modern ages are entirely different. And she is an idealist pretty much.

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I'm the opposite, honestly. A large part of why I dislike Saber so much is because of her popularity, and how she always hogs the limelight and appears everywhere. Especially when Sakura is largely ignored.

Acceptable. Very popular characters can also annoy me, especially when people care only about them. I believe part of why Sakura is the least popular out of Saber and Rin is because she is not a 'fighter' (except when she goes all yandere in HF) and because she is quite ignored in the first two routes.

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What do you mean?

I thought her route focussed on her a reasonable amount, honestly. Not as much as HF does on Sakura, no, but more than UBW does on Rin. And, Saber does get some character development outside of Fate, too.

It focused a lot on her relationship with Shirou and sadly her route wasn't that exciting. Also, as a reader, you were expected to have knowledge of Arthur's legend. It would be good enough if they could add part of her background in the route.

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Really?

I find the opposite. If a character is popular they tend to be disliked for that. Although, there is a certain hive-mind aspect that comes about sometimes, particularly with regards to attacking less-popular characters (Sakura on 4chan and various other places, for example).

I have noticed though that people like to put mainstream characters in their favorites, for example Lelouch, Light, etc. Perhaps that gives them some sort of image that they are fond of 'good' characters, even if majority of those characters are overrated.

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That seems like a bizarre reason to like a character, honestly, but I guess that people don't have to always justify it....

It is. Or they like a x character because he/she has a lot of merchandise that they can purchase.



I think when it comes to liking a character for a design alone when they don't yet have a personality, part of it may be that the design itself kinda gives the character some personality. It may be the potential of what the design could be more than anything that draws people to it. Though then, sometimes people just like a thing because they like a thing.

I am not sure how a design would give a personality. Of course, if a designer makes a cute-looking character, most of the times you can assume that the certain character will be naive. I suppose I can give an example. But I have noticed that most of the times, a character is liked due to the design.

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Secret Garden / Re: Introductary Thread!
« on: November 04, 2013, 10:40:30 AM »
I missed this...

I am Saber and I want the Holy Grail.

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Visual Novels / Re: General Otome Game thread
« on: November 04, 2013, 10:30:43 AM »
Talking of Otome games, it would have been great if Heart no Kuni no Alice had an English patch. I never cared about Otome games and most anime adaptions of them are failures but HnKA had the most interesting idea for me. And the heroine was not some damsel in distress.

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General Discussion / Re: Fire Girl.
« on: November 04, 2013, 10:20:59 AM »
I am aware but sadly it does not seem to be popular indeed. At least I hope someone will translate it soon.

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General Discussion / Re: Favorite Type-MOON Character(s)?
« on: November 04, 2013, 10:20:02 AM »
Any reason for those?

Mainly their roles, personalities, powers. Saber has quite the dignity that I like and somehow I can relate to her personality, I suppose. However, other people like her mainly because she is the most popular character out of Type-Moon.  Unfortunately though, her route is quite 'unfair', I was always expecting much more focus on her character back then.
And I find Shiki an extremely unique  and complex character.


Liking things isn't always driven from reason.

For example, my favorite character is Kayneth Archibald El-Melloi, sexy bastard that he is. You call him a dick all you like and be completely right, but he knows what he wants and goes for it, has a strong sense of what's right and wrong (even though his standards of both are slightly different) and at the end of the day he has his priorities straight(Protect waifu).

And I agree with that. Usually people like characters that are popular just because. The design also plays an important role. There are characters with a totally empty personality, yet they are able to become popular just by their design. Also, the anime plays an important role, mainstream popular anime tend to make their main characters popular enough.

I have seen people that never played x game for example and they like x character because he/she looks strong, has good looks, etc.

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General Discussion / Fire Girl.
« on: November 03, 2013, 12:27:04 PM »
So, anyone has more info about Fire Girl? Looks like it is on the second volume but nobody has picked it to translate it and I have not heard enough. I am sort of interested since it is something entirely new by Type-Moon, regarding the writer also.

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