of flesh and fantasy poll and discussion.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, I remember you being OK with him raping people before (although that was after they did something to him...).

the difference being that he doesn't do it unprovoked

Ah, OK, fair enough.

[lantzblades]

as for the adventures and conflicts well there's a difference between border issues and war, i doubt nero's and saber's country would war.

gilgamesh is another story, i'd see him sending envoys or war parties around

[Cherry Lover]

as for the adventures and conflicts well there's a difference between border issues and war, i doubt nero's and saber's country would war.

Yeah, that definitely makes sense. They have no real reason to fight each other.

gilgamesh is another story, i'd see him sending envoys or war parties around

Well, I think the second is more likely, honestly. Although in the case of Saber's country I think he'd have sent envoys at first, asking her to submit to him and to marry him.

Honestly, I think an eventual declaration of war is most likely, but I dunno how Saber will fight that off, or how it will fit with the story here.

[lantzblades]

it won't exactltly, just pairing up characters next would be ideal

[Cherry Lover]

it won't exactltly

What won't what?

just pairing up characters next would be ideal

Hmm, OK.

Well, I'm not sure about Shirou here. I think Saber is maybe too obvious, but I dunno if there's anyone else to pair Saber with, or who else we'd pair Shirou with. Sakura could end up with Rider, Shirou or possibly Emilya (or some combination of those, since Rider would probably be OK with a threesome...). Rin I also don't know, we need to work out her situation more before I can say who to pair her with. Archer would be obvious but, again, possibly too obvious.

[lantzblades]

What won't what?

the war bit won't relate to the main story

saber and shirou do work, sakura with rider isn't optimal but works

archer and rin works fine.

[Cherry Lover]

What won't what?

the war bit won't relate to the main story

Hmm, why? Would Gil not be fighting Saber for some reason?

saber and shirou do work

Sure it works, but I think it's a bit obvious.

sakura with rider isn't optimal but works

Why isn't it "optimal", and what would be (with regards to Sakura and Rider)?

archer and rin works fine.

Yeah, it does, but we basically always do that pairing.

[lantzblades]

Hmm, why? Would Gil not be fighting Saber for some reason?

he would it just wouldn't be the main story

Why isn't it "optimal", and what would be

not sure, ideal male partners for each, it's more not optimal because it's typical

Yeah, it does, but we basically always do that pairing.

they are very good together.

[Cherry Lover]

Hmm, why? Would Gil not be fighting Saber for some reason?

he would it just wouldn't be the main story

Well, OK, what will be the "main story"?

Why isn't it "optimal", and what would be

not sure, ideal male partners for each

Like who? There aren't many guys around....

it's more not optimal because it's typical

Yes, but so is Shirou x Saber and Rin x Archer....

Not that I mind changing it if there is a better option, mind.

Yeah, it does, but we basically always do that pairing.

they are very good together.

Well, yes, true, but variety is always good.

[lantzblades]

Well, OK, what will be the "main story"?

I assume the sex and the build up to it

Like who? There aren't many guys around....

you have a point

Well, yes, true, but variety is always good.

in their case not so much.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, OK, what will be the "main story"?

I assume the sex and the build up to it

What sex? So far the only thing we've worked out is the stuff involving Rider....

Like who? There aren't many guys around....

you have a point

Yeah, exactly. I don't mind an alternative if one can be found (although Rider pairing with Sakura naturally leads to more BDSM with Rider asking to be punished for what she did), but I can't think of anyone else, aside from pairing Shirou with Sakura.

Well, yes, true, but variety is always good.

in their case not so much.

Well, OK, fair enough.

[lantzblades]

What sex? So far the only thing we've worked out is the stuff involving Rider....

never said we've worked it out, I just said that would be the main story

[Cherry Lover]

What sex? So far the only thing we've worked out is the stuff involving Rider....

never said we've worked it out, I just said that would be the main story

Ah, OK, fair enough. I guess we need to work that out, then.

Whose sex are we talking about here? Toshi's?

Also, with Dark Toshi, what sort of things would cause him to commit rape or to torture someone, just for future reference?

[lantzblades]

Whose sex are we talking about here? Toshi's?

partly, mostly the other sex though

Also, with Dark Toshi, what sort of things would cause him to commit rape or to torture someone, just for future reference?

i'll explain this over skype

[Cherry Lover]

Whose sex are we talking about here? Toshi's?

partly, mostly the other sex though

Hmm, OK.

Well, we need to work some more stuff out, then. With Sakura and Rider, we need to work out where they'll go from the point where Sakura is being confined by Nero. Probably Rider would make every effort to apologise to her, and try to compensate her for what happened, resulting eventually in a relationship. With Rin, I think she should be searching for Sakura, and possibly meet Archer on the way. Shirou and Saber I dunno, and I'm not sure what other couples will be here.

Also, Shinji and Zouken are likely to end up dying horribly (Shinji at least possibly at the hands of Caster, although I dunno if you want to show any of that...).

Also, with Dark Toshi, what sort of things would cause him to commit rape or to torture someone, just for future reference?

i'll explain this over skype

OK, fair enough.