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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #135 on: February 04, 2014, 06:28:47 AM »
Well you were taught wrong, as any look in a dictionary would show you.

And no it wasn't hateful. For the millionth time. So accept that you're wrong lantz, and that I'm right. Feel that icy burn of defeat and deal with it.

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #136 on: February 04, 2014, 10:04:58 AM »
No, not really. Whipswords are fucking awful weapons. That's a fact.

You're rude to Ivy, mang.

OH FUCK I JUST WAS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THE IRISH!

Consider me offended.

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It's not really hate speech unless certain lines are crossed, and honestly if you get offended at this little thing when people have said far worse in other threads here, then fuck off.

;_;

You see Lantz, I live in a wonderful place known as AMERICA! We have this magical thing called the FIRST AMENDMENT! It gives me the right to say whatever the fuck I want to say. Within certain limits. And so far, I am totally within these limits.

ARE FRIEDUM!!!

Since when does America have anything to do with freedom? :P

ARRRRREEE FFFRRRIIIEEEEDDDUUUUMMM!!!

Talk to me about freedom when the UK doesn't take away all your guns anymore. And when your prime minister stops banning internet porn.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

Health care system, tho.

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2014, 11:56:45 AM »
I don't believe you Arch, sell it elsewhere.

and dictionary has nothing to do with the legal definition

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #138 on: February 04, 2014, 12:54:55 PM »
*PS, Alice, Mike, add an :FREEDOM: or :AMERICA: emoticon that's a bald eagle in front of an american flag. Just steal something awful's one.

Since when does America have anything to do with freedom? :P
Talk to me about freedom when the UK doesn't take away all your guns anymore. And when your prime minister stops banning internet porn.

AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

Yeah, well, go tell all the people in Guantanemo Bay that the US just randomly picked off the streets of Afghanistan and is now desperately claiming are terrorists to save face that the US stands for freedom. Or the random guy who the US picked up, tortured, released when they realised they'd got the wrong guy and then used the argument of "well, it'll compromise secret information" to deny him any right to justice. Or Bradley Manning. Or Edward Snowdon. Or the hundreds of thousands of people locked up in prison for using drugs which harm only theirselves.

And no it wasn't hateful. For the millionth time. So accept that you're wrong lantz, and that I'm right. Feel that icy burn of defeat and deal with it.

I'm not entirely sure how you have at any point proven that it wasn't hateful....
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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #139 on: February 04, 2014, 07:43:31 PM »
Was it intended as an insult against the mentally handicapped?

No, it wasn't. Therefore, it isn't an insult against the mentally handicapped.

I don't believe you Arch, sell it elsewhere.

and dictionary has nothing to do with the legal definition
And there isn't a legal definition of racism, because it isn't a legal term.

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #140 on: February 04, 2014, 08:01:46 PM »
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The UN does not define "racism"; however, it does define "racial discrimination": According to the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

http://www.hri.org/docs/ICERD66.html

The UN's definition apparently.

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Similarly, in British law the phrase racial group means "any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin."

http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/rrpbcrbook.html

And that used by British law. These are the closest to legal definitions I can find based off a quick search. Neither of these mention the mentally handicapped as a group covered within that definition.

Are the mentally handicapped discriminated against? Oh yes. But it's not racism. It's actually called mentalism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentalism_(discrimination)

The power of research! :D

Also, to be fair, even if it wasn't intended as an insult against the mentally handicapped, it can still potentially be seen as offensive. To use a field I'm more experienced with, a lot of sexism is unconscious or unwitting, for instance. Considering how lanz overreacts to everything though, and takes the slightest insignificant insult as a personal attack of the highest order, I can't blame you for questioning it.

That said, I think "retarded" is at least considered mildly offensive, at least in certain circles, though I think the level of offensiveness is somewhat determined by the circle you're talking to and even the nation of the person the term is being used around.
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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #141 on: February 05, 2014, 11:56:28 AM »
Yes now it has a specific definition, it didn't before, not legally.

and frankly it's the pot and kettle here

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #142 on: February 05, 2014, 03:27:51 PM »
Yes now it has a specific definition, it didn't before, not legally.

and frankly it's the pot and kettle here
Except Mentalism isn't a legal term either, and this whole situation is more like a pot calling a Jew a Nazi.

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #143 on: February 05, 2014, 04:01:33 PM »
Actually no pot calling kettle black is an effective comparison to Lantz, because he keeps crying about us telling him Satoshi a shit is a fact and telling us to stahp, while in the gundam/final fantasy threads he declares that what other people like is factually bad and keeps harping on about it until we have users disappear because of how much of a jerk he is, despite an admin telling him to stop telling people what to and not to like in one of those threads, repeatedly, and him ignoring it.

AND YES THERE IS A DIFFERENCE LANTZ

Final Fantasy 13, for example, while being fairly bad in every way, isn't RPing with us as a whole with all of the spectacularly bad aspects only, so clearly the idea there is of "Well I don't like it, but seeing as the fact you do doesn't affect me, have fun with it AS YOU ARE ALREADY" is the right to take, instead of "This is bad it's a fact fact fact fact where are you going? That was definitely not my fault."

Satoshi is bad and does actually negatively affect us through the RP, so of course we're going to repeatedly tell you how bad he is because as said, we are affected by it, unlike with the fact someone out there is enjoying FF13. We can't let it be because unlike you, we don't worship the turd in the corner of the room and bring it to our friend's house on a DnD sheet to play as, we throw it out and hope it hits some squirrels, and if we see a guy coming in with a turd on a DnD sheet, we either immediately aim at squirrels or continuously harp on about it until either you take a hint and actually finish making him/balancing him, you just stop playing him, you leave or the GM starts doing something about it, because while the GM wants a smooth game with no trouble, she also should take offense to someone coming to her game table with a pile of shit.

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #144 on: February 05, 2014, 08:04:45 PM »
Maybe Satoshi is actually lantz self-inserting????

so is all his writing really wish fufillment????

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #145 on: February 05, 2014, 08:18:25 PM »
No Zidan, I only ever self insert for the purposes of humor, lampooning is fantastic

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #146 on: February 05, 2014, 08:29:31 PM »
ahh ok
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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #147 on: February 05, 2014, 08:53:41 PM »
Maybe Satoshi is actually lantz self-inserting????

so is all his writing really wish fufillment????

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It really is sort of wishfullfilment writing, and it comes off as it. Lantz self inserting is something I'm nearly 100% sure of, and I feel it's a bit of an issue with him.

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #148 on: February 05, 2014, 08:59:16 PM »
Satoshi sporadically remembers that he's supposed to have character specific traits like OCD though, making him not Lantz.

But how sporadic it is and rarely and situationally the OCD crops up is questionable by itself. OCD is a constant thing to the person who has it, yet it seems to turn off and on with this guy. This is less the character's problem and more the writer's.

The consistency is a bit lacking, Lantz. Either this character has a condition or doesn't, don't try to go halfway. The only thing you'll do is alienate people who have the condition/people who know how it works.

Honestly this post isn't even out to discredit your character or make you mad, just to point out something that is a genuine flaw in the way he's written.

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Re: Lantz's Q and A thread
« Reply #149 on: February 05, 2014, 09:17:23 PM »
I've never done Self-Insert besides maybe insert a few character tics of myself when I write Shirou since he's basically F/sn si in the vn no matter how badly that works out

I have ADHD and probably will never grow out of it,  and its particular symptoms for me are something I can easily portray if I were to do so.  Can't keep my mind focused on something unless it interests me to the point of intense fascination, have multiple thought processes going on away from my main focus that can be distracting to the point I forget what I was doing or be used to think of multiple scenarios at the same time.

To list additionals:

I can be easily distracted, miss details, forget things, and frequently switch from one activity to another

I have to be constantly in motion, even little things like squirming my toes, I can't stay still at all

I can blurt out inappropriate comments, show emotions without restraint, and act without regard for consequences which can lead me into trouble

I have difficulty waiting for things I want and often interrupt conversations or others' activities.

It sucks having ADHD
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