Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).

[Lycodrake]

Good thing the mage-type characters I have in mind have very specific magic skillsets.

[Kurogami]

Back on, working on my post.

[Elf]

Gonna have to defuse your headcanon Jenn. Nameless Hero and EMIYA weight and measures the exact same height and weight.

Well, Nasu's height and weight listings are bullshit for some of his characters and how they're portrayed in the artwork.

[Lycodrake]

Magos is on his way to join Chris/Brah as Elf's second pet boy, it seems.

[Brahmastra]

Just because she is older does not mean she has it you know.

Newsflash Bob; Medea is weakshit, and given that your knowledge on Apoc has been proven to be far less than stellar on BL multiple times, I'm gonna ignore your complaint.

That said I will put in what Names told me to, and will with my other characters when I get home. I would've done it earlier but the entire Island had an 9-hour power outage. Ill be able to edit the sheets within a couple of hours.

[Kat]

There are more Casters who would shrek Medea. Solomon's Adam would stomp her.

[Milbunk]

Oh please, you tend to overpower apocrypha characters so much it's not even funny, don't talk to me about doing such things when suffer from the same delusions.

I could also bring up the fact that Semiramis has to go to baghdad just to get her NP to work and Solomon takes months of prep time and a while lot of worldly materials just to make his golem while Medea does all of her work from the safety of her base with no such weaknesses. (In fact she doesn't even go all out she purposefully keeps it low key.)

Then there is the Grail hacking stuff but there's no point in trying to get through to you anyways.

I would also like to reiterate the fact that in prototype Medea was actually supposed to be the Gilgamesh of the story but got pushed down by sealing her dragon.

[Brahmastra]

Minus the part where her Dragon, could she summon it, would just BARELY make her mid-tier.

We've agreed to disagree, I with you for Medea wankage and character bashing and you with me for perceived "Apoc wankage". Not changing shit, like it or not.

[Kat]

Milbunk thinks basically that U/C has canon stuff when it comes to his waifu. Disregard his opinion, he is worse waifufag than Chris ever has been at Karnafagging/Apofagging (because Chris has basis to that. Karna and Achilles are indeed OP.)

[Milbunk]

No where in the quotes does it say BARELY, that's just BLers being cynical about my methods to prove Medea. The fact that it's so strong it ups to her an entire tier and the fact that it's a dragon which are said to be some of the strongest creatures in the Nasuverse is no small feat. Even if it's a weak dragon it's still a dragon.

Really though, Ex magecraft? That's pretty darn ridiculous to just give someone regardless of the situation, unless it had been previously stated, I don't really care about any of the other things you wanted to use but that particular skill is really baseless. (Well that and the Ex ranked Magic Resistance but whatever one thing at a time.)

Just because I like to use U/C to help fill in holes that are most oftentimes left out unexplained does not mean that my statements do not carry any merit. Really if you want to go there, the fact that Nasu supervised the game gives it just as much basis as Aprocrypha has.

[Kat]

Being mid tier in Fate would mean it would be just rehash of vs Rider fight, which is just issue for Shirou!Saber because lol prana issues. Still, the outcome would be Medea fried by beamu and Saber ready for imminent dicking session.

U/C has nonsensical stuff like Rin winning HGW on her own. It's really clear Nasu, if he really supervised it, did not care about canonicity as much as in case of Apocrypha.

[Milbunk]

As much as I would love to argue such a VS this is not the place for such a thing, really though Caster isn't the type to simply brute force her way through things like Rider was forced to. Given the proper moment she can weasel her way through a lot of bad situations in a really impressive manner.

It's usually pretty easy to tell which routes are meant to be taken as a joke and which ones are much more serious in their manner.

[Brahmastra]

Saber'd A-rank MR completely nullifies Medea's stuff. Astolfo's A-rank MR and the even higher MR of his Hippogriff gets completely chunkaroonied by Semiramis. I rest my case and now I'm done. You're the Mike of Medea, so there's no reason trying to a delusional.

[Milbunk]

This was a beam by the fortress not from Semiramis herself correct? That is a very different thing you know.

[Puck-Chan]

This was a beam by the fortress not from Semiramis herself correct? That is a very different thing you know.

No more butthurt, man. Just let it go and deal with it. A lot of shit in Apocrypha is OPed anyway.