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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4215 on: January 21, 2014, 05:18:28 AM »
Arch you never stated you entered the room
Why wouldn't he? It's pretty logical for Jack to listen in as long as possible, it's what he does. Besides, this conversation was interesting to him. And he might get to throw up on Connor now.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4216 on: January 21, 2014, 05:56:24 AM »
Why or why not is not the point Arch, Forest and Rider clearly entered the room, your vampire didn't.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4217 on: January 21, 2014, 06:00:49 AM »
Just roll with it Lantz.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4218 on: January 21, 2014, 06:06:28 AM »
It doesn't make sense for them not to have detected and removed him, as such that's the next post I have to make to keep in character

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4219 on: January 21, 2014, 06:07:31 AM »
Obsfucate, that's why. Seriously, he's done nothing to violate the terms of that power. So yes, he could get in just fine.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4220 on: January 21, 2014, 06:12:27 AM »
He registers in that state as an object/person less shadow and Taiga sees energy not people so the vampire having fed would be a bright beacon to her. So they would have obviously noticed him entering the room

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4221 on: January 21, 2014, 06:37:31 AM »
If you read the power Lantz, it's pretty obvious that it gets through that issue. Jack literally turns his predatory aura inward - he isn't broadcasting anything at all. He's just... not there. Even other vampires can't tell he's there without using higher levels of Auspex or something like Dementation to get Mage Sight powers (Which is not anything similar to what Taiga can do, and even then only some of those mage sight powers can get through obsfucate) so yeah, they couldn't detect him.


So wait, Taiga isn't actually blind?

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4222 on: January 21, 2014, 06:50:43 AM »
He still casts a shadow so Tsukasa would and will catch him

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4223 on: January 21, 2014, 06:52:20 AM »
That isn't in her powers on her character sheet.

For that matter, obsfucate basically makes that shadow not even recognizable. It's simply not noticeable.

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Basically, even if she notices the shadow, she won't care, because it'll feel or be like the shadow of say, a bed. It's just something not important. It's something that isn't worth noticing. That's what Obsfucate does.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4224 on: January 21, 2014, 06:54:19 AM »
It's how she teleports, it's a natural reflex.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4225 on: January 21, 2014, 06:55:49 AM »
It's how she teleports, it's a natural reflex.
Still something that needs to be in the character sheet.

And she'll still not give a shit dude, Obsfucate.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4226 on: January 21, 2014, 06:59:30 AM »
Seven shadows, six people. She'd mention it on principle alone

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4227 on: January 21, 2014, 07:02:22 AM »
Again, it's simply not something she'll notice. She'll gloss it over and handwave it as 'Oh, it's just a shadow made naturally by some furniture or something.

Then there's the instincts of the Beast. You know those legends of Vampires not having shadows and reflections? Well, they do, you just never see them. Because the Beast knows exactly where to stand to avoid being seen. Especially with Obsfucate active.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4228 on: January 21, 2014, 07:10:12 AM »
Sorry no, like any perception filter it can be overcome and this case is wholly justified.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4229 on: January 21, 2014, 07:12:56 AM »
Not really in this case, because once again, it doesn't make sense for that power to bypass Obsfucate, especially when she knows he's there anyway but simply filters him out. So having seven shadows for seven people is fine, but really only caring about 6 of them makes sense. Obsfucate works like that. You already know he's there, subconciously at the very least, you simply ignore him. That's how it works.