of flesh and fantasy poll and discussion.

[Cherry Lover]

hmmm, alternate future, based on a bad end or otherwise strange future point.

Hmm, yeah, OK, let's try to think of something....

Which Bad Ends would lead to an interesting alternate future (that doesn't involve Sakura being dead)...?

[lantzblades]

well in example Shirou dying during hf temple fight, or other wise turning into a hard ass totalitarian hero, or just the reverse into a Utopian world with looser morals

[Cherry Lover]

well in example Shirou dying during hf temple fight, or other wise turning into a hard ass totalitarian hero, or just the reverse into a Utopian world with looser morals

Well, I'm thinking of how it would lead to porn, in particular. Shirou as a hard-ass totalitarian hero could work, although my interpretation of that would very definitely not be light....

[lantzblades]

it would be sorta outside character too

[Cherry Lover]

it would be sorta outside character too

Well, yeah....

I'm just trying to think of a good idea.

[lantzblades]

i'd suggest utopia rather then dystopia

[Cherry Lover]

i'd suggest utopia rather then dystopia

Well, yeah, possibly. It's just that dystopias lead to more chance of BDSM

[lantzblades]

i'd argue the opposite

[Cherry Lover]

i's argue the opposite

Really, how? Dystopias tend to involve a lot of torture etc., whereas utopias obviously do not....

But, yeah, OK, I'll go with a utopia here, because it does give more choices if nothing else, and it's less dark. So, the question is what. What sort of situation would it be (particularly given that Toshi's home world is not exactly bad...)?

[lantzblades]

toshi's world? yeah i guess it's fairly good.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, yeah, but what sort of utopia are we looking for here?

Also, I don't get how a utopia is better for BDSM than a dystopia....

[lantzblades]

er, hmmm, like Greek futurist culture, ultra peaceful with police as a formality.

Also, I don't get how a utopia is better for BDSM than a dystopia....

free love versus rebels associating torture with, well torture

[Cherry Lover]

er, hmmm, like Greek futurist culture, ultra peaceful with police as a formality.

Well, yeah, possibly.

Also, I don't get how a utopia is better for BDSM than a dystopia....

free love versus rebels associating torture with, well torture

Well, it allows for consensual BDSM more, yes, but not so much hardcore BDSM and definitely not torture stuff.

[lantzblades]

well crying girls isn't the point of faf anyways.

i say roll with the idea of greek like utopia

[Cherry Lover]

well crying girls isn't the point of faf anyways.

Well, no, perhaps, but it is my sort of thing....

i say roll with the idea of greek like utopia

Yeah, that probably makes sense, although it doesn't seem to have much of a BDSM element.