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« on: April 16, 2013, 06:01:00 PM »
Everyone has one and no i'm not talking about the shipping wars people engage in with characters who've never spoken to one another. I mean that in stories like Fate and Tsukihime with multiple paths and endings which do you subscribe to as the ends for you?

In my case

Fate stay night

Fate's true end (NOT LE)

it's Saber and Shirou, a basic action story with an an underlying warmth. It's a simple even handed story without complications or guilt involved.

Tsukihime

Kohaku's route (I forget the title)

Though I like Tsukihime alot Kohaku's route was the most impactful (like i syringe to the neck) Shiki X Kohaku

Fate Extra

MCXCaster

the other two servants are ok but caster just seemed to be the most fun and the one who belonged with the dude, I haven't finished extra as FemC so I can't speak no her but likely archerXFemC

so that's mine, what's yours?

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 06:28:43 PM »
Well, I've not played Extra or Tsukihime, so I can't comment on those, but my answer for Fate/Stay Night is obviously HF True.

Simply put, aside from the fact that I much prefer Sakura x Shirou to the other two pairings, HF True is also the only ending in which Sakura is certain to have the chance to live a normal and happy life. Whilst I would like to think that Rin and Shirou would find a way to save her in the other two routes, until that is confirmed I am not overly fond of them. Further, HF True is IMO the happiest ending overall, since it is basically UBW Good but with Sakura saved, Ilya getting a less horrible death (and some happiness prior to that) and Rider swapped for Saber (which IMO is a good swap, although I doubt you would agree...).

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 06:59:03 PM »
you are right, i would not consider it good or even, I don't think HF is bad, i'm just not a fan of the ton of stupid all the characters carried around.

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 07:08:16 PM »
Perhaps, but I'm not a fan of Sakura being left to be worm-raped to death whilst her big sister buggers off to London and forgets her, so....

Plus, Nasu basically said that HF True was canon, because he said a universe which Zelretch visited would become true, and Zelretch visits HF True :P
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Re: personal canon
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 07:55:04 PM »
you need not be so back biting dude.

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 08:03:02 PM »
Well, that is just my genuine opinion of the other two routes, or at least the way a lot of people portray them.

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 08:07:47 PM »
the author didn't say that she dies etcetera so that's not an issue you should have with canon, writers sure, canon no.

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 08:46:24 PM »
No, he doesn't, but he also doesn't either say or imply that she gets rescued, and given her situation, and how hard it is to free her randomly, that is rather bad.

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 08:47:16 PM »
that means it's open to interpetation

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 09:09:10 PM »
My personal canons are all mixed up. I can't decide between most of them so there are a lot of ties, but mostly:

FSN: UBW True.
Tsukihime: Hisui True.

Nothing to comment on hollow ataraxia and Kagetsu Tohya because lolfandiscssortaharemroute neither Kara no Kyoukai.

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2013, 09:17:48 PM »
my thought on KnK are simple, do not touch that story fanfic writers, you can't do it any better

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2013, 10:03:48 PM »
that means it's open to interpetation

Well, yes, true, but I find it hard to be sure she'll be saved. Plus, even if she is she still has a bit of a mess to deal with mentally, particularly in UBW.

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2013, 10:35:32 PM »
that's your doubts, your doubts aren't canon.

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2013, 10:44:54 PM »
Well, no, but Nasu hardly makes it look easy to free her....

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Re: personal canon
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2013, 11:03:43 PM »
Yeah, with the whole issue of having Zouken's worm in her heart...

But I like to believe that the was saved in the big conflict created by Rin and Waver post-Fate and UBW. Better late than never, though sooner would be nicer.