The Round Table (A collaborative fiction thread)

[Cherry Lover]

gil steals ilya and knocks her out and at the same time rin gets jumped by kirei

Well, that could work. It does sound like it would be rather late in the story, though, and I'd like Sakura to get involved a bit earlier than that, ideally.

[lantzblades]

after berserker is dead is really the mid point

[Cherry Lover]

after berserker is dead is really the mid point

Well, what you're suggesting is basically the end of the Fate route, only with Sakura replacing Rin. Ilya getting stolen means they need to get her back now (before Gil kills her), and that means they have to defeat Gil there and then. Although, I guess having Rider suddenly turn on them could change that, particularly if Sakura is smart about it....

[lantzblades]

what i'm suggesting is a clutch moment in a big fight like that and yes Sakura won't be involved much in the violence but that doesn't mean zero involvement, I think it fits her character and is believable character development.

[Cherry Lover]

what i'm suggesting is a clutch moment in a big fight like that and yes Sakura won't be involved much in the violence but that doesn't mean zero involvement, I think it fits her character and is believable character development.

Well, it's a big involvement in the final fight, yes, but it means she has little involvement in the rest of the story. It is also difficult for Kotomine to hold onto Rider for any length of time without Sakura taking her back.

[lantzblades]

in the violence of the rest of the story but she's not saber or archer, sakura 's not built for fighting like that.

[Cherry Lover]

in the violence of the rest of the story but she's not saber or archer, sakura 's not built for fighting like that.

Well, no, of course she's not a direct fighter (although she isn't completely incapable of it), but that doesn't mean she can't help with planning etc. Without a servant, my suspicion is that Rin and Shirou would keep her as far out of the way as possible, to ensure she wouldn't be a target and to keep the war secret from her.

[lantzblades]

I doubt they would succeed in keeping it a secret from her and i imagine archer giving rin a smack if she tried.

[Cherry Lover]

I doubt they would succeed in keeping it a secret from her and i imagine archer giving rin a smack if she tried.

Well, obviously they won't succeed, because she already knows about it. But, at the same time, she doesn't want them to know she knows about it (because it would imply she was a master), and they don't want her to know. So, the charade is likely to continue reasonably well, I suspect.

[lantzblades]

I suspect different with Rider's disposition

[Cherry Lover]

I suspect different with Rider's disposition

What?

[lantzblades]

i would expect her to spill everything she knows once freed from shinji.

[Cherry Lover]

i would expect her to spill everything she knows once freed from shinji.

Really? I can't see her wanting to give up Sakura's secret if Sakura herself does not wish to.

Also, if she told them that Sakura was a master, then Sakura has little reason not to regain control of Rider. She has nothing to hide any more, so why not get involved directly?

[lantzblades]

rider may have told rin but that doesn't mean sakura knows that.

[Cherry Lover]

rider may have told rin but that doesn't mean sakura knows that.

No, but that then means that Sakura still gets excluded from everything, only she doesn't know that they know the truth.

Also, like I said, I don't think Rider would do that. She's too loyal to Sakura, and wouldn't want to risk revealing her true master to a potential enemy in case that said enemy went after her.