ero&lemon discussion

[Kat]

As for me, I have a thing for consensual relationships with second cousins or further removed. That is all.

[KAIZA]

After a long discussion, and given it was handed by Alice while angry, we decided to overturn lantz's ban. However, when someone requests for the topic to be dropped or changed (especially given this was a sensitive topic), it's better to heed their advice.

Lantz didn't follow Alice's request for a topic change, and for that, we've handed him a warning.

[Elf]

I generally like lemons with characters I enjoy that have good chemistry.

Bondage can be nice too.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

I generally like lemons with characters I enjoy that have good chemistry.

Bondage can be nice too.

Same.

Really, it's sort of like a cake. A lemon cake. I like the lemon, a bit of bondage can just be the frosting if I'm feeling like it.

[Andoriol]

I generally like lemons with characters I enjoy that have good chemistry.

Bondage can be nice too.

Same.

Really, it's sort of like a cake. A lemon cake. I like the lemon, a bit of bondage can just be the frosting if I'm feeling like it.

I like that analogy! Though it does beg the question of what the various fruit one can add to the cake would be and what flavor icing bondage is...

[Kat]

I like 'kissing cousins' thing in lemons. It's fine as they are second ones. My second cousin is fugly though, do not want.

[Cherry Lover]

Honestly, I wouldn't see getting into a relationship with a second cousin as wrong or even unusual. I don't really even know my second cousins....

Personally, I wouldn't even say that a relationship with a cousin was particularly bad, although it is on the borderline.

[Kat]

It is legal here to hook up with first cousins, but I don't have any. Of course, the Roman Catholic Church forbids it, but I'm atheist.

[Cherry Lover]

It does? I'm surprised that the Catholic Church is overly bothered about such things, given that it certainly wasn't bothered hundreds of years ago....

And, first cousins are legal here too, I believe. It's just kind-of borderline for what is acceptable.

[Kat]

CL, it's basically like this:

- first cousin marriages are completely forbidden. No exceptions, no dispense to have a one.

- second cousin marriages need an approval from any bishop.

- third cousin marriages and onward are considered normal.

[Cherry Lover]

Wow, I'm quite surprised, because such marriages were definitely very common in the past, especially amongst royalty and the like.

[Kat]

It's the thing of the past, even an ancient and colossal religious organization like the Roman Catholic Church is undergoing evolution.

[Cherry Lover]

Yeah, sure, I just didn't expect that making up new rules on incest that are considerably stricter than modern society would be part of that. In general, the Catholic Church's evolution tends to involve moderating its more completely-bat-shit-insane views to fit with reality and the modern world, and that doesn't really fit with this.

[lantzblades]

Chemistry is definitely important, on the subject of incest, well I found I can write it but I would seriously prefer not to.

[Kat]

Yeah, sure, I just didn't expect that making up new rules on incest that are considerably stricter than modern society would be part of that. In general, the Catholic Church's evolution tends to involve moderating its more completely-bat-shit-insane views to fit with reality and the modern world, and that doesn't really fit with this.

It is all because of hemophilia outbreak among European royalty. People in late 19th century got convinced sex with cousins is something automatically detrimental for the off spring, while in reality the risk of genetic failure is comparable for women in early 40s like for first cousins being in a relationship.

http://www.wired.com/2008/12/cousinmarriage/

I got the same info from two different sites (with the Polish one adding remark about 40 year old women vs first cousin marriages), but if there is need for that, I can dig it further.

So, the risk is there, but does not justify banning first cousin marriages.