General Nasuverse Lore/Character/Serious Canon Discussion Thread

[Cherry Lover]

Well, the first part implies that it is possible for there to be something that Gil does not have that is invented by a human, although I'm not clear on what exactly that means in this context.

[Umbra of Chaos]

A new breed of humans that use a new set of concepts to define whatever they make can create something that doesn't exist in Gil's vault. So I assume it is talking about a scenario like Notes, however I have never read Notes so I cannot say for sure, however this is slightly off topic. Brah is right. Gil has everything thought of by humanity.

[lantzblades]

Then Gilgamesh has a weapon against himself in his gate, that's what having a prototype of the sword of darkness is. A weapon specifically designed to murder Gilgamesh.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Then Gilgamesh has a weapon against himself in his gate, that's what having a prototype of the sword of darkness is. A weapon specifically designed to murder Gilgamesh.

That was Enkidu. And Gilgamesh beat him.

Plus the name for your weapon is fucking stupid.

[Umbra of Chaos]

What makes me sad is the idea that Gil could empty his vault was considered plausible by lantz.

[Kat]

Gilgamesh owns everything invented by humanity except:

1) things and concepts not made specifically by humans (like Avalon, Excalibur or Vasakti Shakti). The exceptions are Ea and Enkidu because he owned them personally in his life.

2) things and concepts invented by posthumans, in other words A-Rays and Ether Liners, because they are not humanity anymore.

[Cherry Lover]

Then Gilgamesh has a weapon against himself in his gate, that's what having a prototype of the sword of darkness is. A weapon specifically designed to murder Gilgamesh.

So, Gil in your universe possesses the ultimate Gilgamesh-killing sword?

What makes me sad is the idea that Gil could empty his vault was considered plausible by lantz.

It's made pretty clear in Zero that Gil does have to "collect" his weapons after the battle (because he discards some after using them against Caster's monster), and humanity doesn't have an infinite amount of weapons, so eventually it should be possible to empty it, in principle at least.

[YOLF]

He has something in it to recollect them. Which is probably automatic unless he'd rather not retrieve his weapons.

[Cherry Lover]

Yes, probably, but if the weapon is damaged or stolen then he might not be able to reclaim it.

[Umbra of Chaos]

He should be able to reclaim the stolen ones. Broken ones probably can't be reclaimed, but unless you can trace  NPs to throw at his NPs he will just keep throwing them at you until you die.

[Lycodrake]

Why is lantz's hate-sword being discussed in this thread?

[Kat]

Because of canon defilement.