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Re: character Q and A
« Reply #405 on: October 02, 2014, 05:00:32 AM »
Lantz, I'd recommend cooling down.

You asked for advice, we gave you advice within our capabilities. You want it, you take it, you don't, that's fine. But, if you want to take the risk, you have to take it with everything involved. Including people not liking or caring about your fic.

And that's all I'm going to say for now. Since this isn't going anywhere, I recommend all of us just drop this discussion now. It probably won't end up healthy for those involved.

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« Reply #406 on: October 02, 2014, 05:01:36 AM »
Yeah, I'm fine with dropping it, I never expected anything different.

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« Reply #407 on: October 02, 2014, 05:02:50 AM »
@Names

no, I've dealt with data loss trolls and four versions of the story based on feedback for which I'm called an asshole who doesn't take criticism. I'm done with trying to be fair.

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« Reply #408 on: October 02, 2014, 05:11:21 AM »
Said aunt I still refuse to accept as a lost cause.

The only way her death becomes absolutely certain is if you, the writer, want her to die. She lasts a year IIRC without any help, so with help there should be a way to keep her alive two or three more, so the question is just how long is Saber gone?

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And with that I am done, If you are serious about quitting then do not waste the time typing a reply it will just keep things going.

And as a suggestion, you should in the future question if you are willing to continue no matter the opposition before starting a project.

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« Reply #409 on: October 02, 2014, 05:11:54 AM »
That doesn't refute my point. I'm not saying you're unfair, I'm saying you've been given chances unlike what you claim, and you need to stop being so full of yourself.

Basically stop lying to yourself.

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« Reply #410 on: October 02, 2014, 05:12:12 AM »
Q: if we're not doing critisism anymore, should we lock all the Q&A threads?

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Re: character Q and A
« Reply #411 on: October 02, 2014, 05:18:51 AM »
@Names

I don't believe you.

@Kuro

it was a nice thought but the current conclusion is that the character of Satoshi isn't the same, thus the reboot isn't possible. If you have a way to inspire unshakeable hope in people and a peaceful world were no one has to die then shoot. Otherwise the reboot is impossible.

@Bdoom

A: not up to you, stop pushing for it.

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« Reply #412 on: October 02, 2014, 05:24:00 AM »
But you just said fuck all the critisism, fuck it all, so what's the point?

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Re: character Q and A
« Reply #413 on: October 02, 2014, 05:25:30 AM »
Just leave it be, Bdoom. Please. For your own sake.

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« Reply #414 on: October 02, 2014, 05:29:51 AM »
I'm willing to still deal with Questions and answers, further discussion is still valid. Telling me to rewrite the work for the fifth (technically sixth) time without considering how much time and effort is wasted is however rude. As is assuming that reading a work is the same as giving it a chance.

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« Reply #415 on: October 02, 2014, 03:51:53 PM »
It's a time travel story in the multiverse. Since this clearly isn't obvious the rules of the setting are largely transient. All three of the first chapters are (strange as they may seem) actually integral to the plot. If they sour the reader fine but as far as I'm concerned they didn't give it a chance because you can't know a story is bad till you get to the end.

I can't simplify a story like this anymore than I already have.

the reboot doesn't work because the characters aren't the same. And the original isn't worth discussing when no one acknowledges how fucking hard it is. No one even knows who the final boss is or why.

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« Reply #416 on: October 02, 2014, 04:07:14 PM »
All three of the first chapters are (strange as they may seem) actually integral to the plot. If they sour the reader fine but as far as I'm concerned they didn't give it a chance because you can't know a story is bad till you get to the end.

The thing is, though, whilst you're right that no-one can know for sure if a story is bad from the first chapter, they also can't be sure that it will end up being good. So, if the first few chapters turn them off, then they're likely to just stop reading. That's not exclusive to you, it applies to every author in existence.

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And the original isn't worth discussing when no one acknowledges how fucking hard it is.

How hard what is...?

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No one even knows who the final boss is or why.

No, because you've never told us, and if you did it would most likely ruin the story.

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« Reply #417 on: October 02, 2014, 04:11:16 PM »
If you want to post each chapter as you finish it you need to expect people to judge it oon what they see and know now. I'm not going to wait years for something to finish before I can call it good or bad, and you shouldn't expect anyone else to either. Don't act like we're targeting you specificly with this, everyone else writing fanfics gets scrutinized as they go too.

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Re: character Q and A
« Reply #418 on: October 02, 2014, 04:33:08 PM »
@Bdoom

No, sorry. The wealth of incidents where people have directly targeted me prove you wrong

@CL

Well then people miss out. I never judge things until I've finished them.

how hard it is to research, formulate and execute a story this big.

and yeah, if I explained the twists it would wreck the story, however everyone else seems to think opposite.

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« Reply #419 on: October 02, 2014, 04:37:53 PM »
Lantz, They don't. I can tell you exactly why your Q&A gets so many posts. It's becuase of the way you react to people posting their criticism. You get super defensive about it, and it turns into a shouting fest. If anyone else acted the way you do twords critisism, they'd get the exact same treatment.

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and yeah, if I explained the twists it would wreck the story, however everyone else seems to think opposite.
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Well then people miss out. I never judge things until I've finished them.
That's not how fanfic critisism works.
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