Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).

[Cherry Lover]

Well, "Gilgamesh is unlikable" is purely a matter of opinion. I think it's pretty obvious Nasu doesn't intend for him to come across as likable, though, he spends most of Fate and UBW acting like a complete dick.

[The Man With All The Cute Boats]

Ragna is not in a happy place

[Lycodrake]

I hope I'm not meta-gaming by recognizing the name Enkidu. Lyco Aptera lives in the Mediterranean and visits the Middle East with Marie Al'miraj, so...it would make sense for him to have heard of them.
...and he might've brought the topic up with [Athena] Nike and heard choice words about Ishtar. Like "bitch". :V

[YOLF]

Gilgamesh in Fate Stay is a person you're supposed to dislike (even despise) in the routes he stars in a main antagonistic role. He succeeds at it because of how he tosses around his overwhelming power, his attitude towards the protagonists, and the way he acts in general. And all of that makes for a great villain.

Which doesn't mean people don't like him as a character. Heck that's the entire point! I like Gil as a character in FSN because he makes a good villain!

I'll admit that Fate/Zero is kind of what made Gil for me as a character, because even though he's manipulative, corrupts Kirei, doesn't give two shits of respect for most people, and flaunts his power and superiority all the time, he's so goddamn amazing at all of it you can't help but cheer for him!

TL;DR: A character can be amazingly likable and great at their role, but you can still dislike them as a person (especially if that's their point).

[Cherry Lover]

Well, yes, sure, but since he is talking about in-universe reactions, he means liking or disliking him as a person and not as a character.

[Knick]

IC most people are suppose to be in awe of him unless they super high tier.

And even then they should even recognize that he is like amazing and beyond them. It actually in the character sheet.

Only reason Phoenix and Arc don't is because one is an an Elemental and the other is a Fairy probably. Well that the reason Phoenix doesn't, Arc might not cause it Arc and she gives 0 shits.

[The Man With All The Cute Boats]

A+ charisma and hell he does live up to it in Zero so in all likelihood if most people like him it's not much of a stretch

[Arch-Magos Winter]

For that matter, Lantz, unless your breakfast is a fucking cow you probably should have posted by now.

[Cherry Lover]

IC most people are suppose to be in aww of him unless they super high tier.

And even then they should even recognize that he is like amazing and beyond them. It actually in the character sheet.

Only reason Phoenix and Arc don't is because they an Elemental and a Fairy probably. Well that the reason Phoenix doesn't, Arc might not cause it Arc and she gives 0 shits.

People who don't know him might be in awe, anyone who has dealt with him is likely to hate him, because he tends to be an asshole to just about everyone....

Also, the version of Gil being played here is a little different from the version in FSN, and Lantz is talking about the FSN version.

For that matter, Lantz, unless your breakfast is a fucking cow you probably should have posted by now.

Arch, please.

Lantz is not currently holding anyone up, so why is it such a problem if he is taking a while to make a post? Just concentrate on your own characters, and don't worry about what Lantz does.

[Ivan The Mouse]

Ragna is not in a happy place

Well, the two immortals just want to help after all, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGlyFc79BUE

[Alice]

Mike, it's because he's done this enough. He keeps delaying this fucking nightmare, he keeps causing trouble with his sheets and shit, he keeps claiming that he doesn't have time, and yet has time to write all these fucking god damn sheets. He needs to fucking post so he can receive judgement on whether he has the right to stay or not. And quite fucking frankly? No, no he doesn't have the right to stay. At all.

[The Man With All The Cute Boats]

>"Busy? what are you doing?"

>"looking for a restaurant."

>"I though you were new here too, so you're just going to walk around until you find one?"

>"Shut up"

Possible route, Ivan?

[Arch-Magos Winter]

I'm betting that Lantz isn't posting because he knows he's likely getting booted because his posts are so shit.

Prove us wrong you crazy bastard.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Lantz taught me something.

The sound of heavy dance music foretells the appearance of Vampires.

[The Man With All The Cute Boats]

>"Shut up"

Possible route, Ivan?

By which I mean like "S-shut up!" as in embarrassed shut up