Cross Effects: Rebirth (2.0) Discussion Page (OOC).

[Arch-Magos Winter]

I told her on Skype and Pms I'd be planning events to avoid conflicts.

That's different than Satoshi Alter being thrown in suddenly. Very. Very. Different.

[Brahmastra]

Lantz we dont give a shit if you told Elf, you didnt tell us. That's like me not including Mohini on Karna's sheet, then pulling it out mid-fight.

[lantzblades]

Lyco Sakura can use dark Sakura's abilities, one of which is tainting people, Sakura is approved. Therefore not meta gaming.

[Knick]

Dark Sakura can taint SERVANTS. Because of the fact that they are tied to the grail and her Anti-spirit trait.

And Avalon would remove it even then.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Lyco Sakura can use dark Sakura's abilities, one of which is tainting people, Sakura is approved. Therefore not meta gaming.

What the fuck. Just. What the fuck.

That's a bullshit excuse for it, and we all know it. Especially when AM does not work that way.

[YOLF]

"Tainting people" isn't a thing. Sakura could blacken Servants in FSN because they're Servants and her conditions. No one else who comes into contact with the curses of Angra Mainyu through the Grail becomes "tainted" like that.

When it comes into contact with Shirou, it tries to melt him.
Kiritsugu got cursed and his body and circuits slowly and painfully decayed until his death.
Kotomine got a heart made of that stuff through the overflow from the Servant-Master bond with Gilgamesh, and he's not "tainted" by any stretch.
It likely just consumes most people who it touches in any way.

[lantzblades]

Whatever guys. I just wanted to develop an event with another player. Seems pretty shitty to be attacked on the basis of being cooperative.

[Umbra of Chaos]

The problem isn't an interesting event. The problem is Dark!Satoshi which apparently isn't the sheet. If you're going to give your characters the ability to transform or something, then include it in your sheet.

[lantzblades]

It was demonstrated in the RP itself and its non presence on the sheet is an oversight, not intentional Umbra. None of this is cause for such violent responses.

[Umbra of Chaos]

If it was an oversight the correct thing to do would be putting it in the sheet and see what Elf says. The point of the sheet is to show people what they should expect to see in the RP. It shouldn't be demonstrated in the RP then added to the sheet.

[Cherry Lover]

It was demonstrated in the RP itself and its non presence on the sheet is an oversight, not intentional Umbra. None of this is cause for such violent responses.

It's also somewhat my fault, since I knew about the Dark Satoshi thing before the sheet was posted and didn't bring it up (whereas I did point out something else that I thought could be a possible issue, and which Lantz changed as a result).

If it was an oversight the correct thing to do would be putting it in the sheet and see what Elf says. The point of the sheet is to show people what they should expect to see in the RP. It shouldn't be demonstrated in the RP then added to the sheet.

Sure, that seems fair. I'm not sure if editing the sheet is something that should be done without Elf saying to do so, though.

And, the issue here is that I don't think Lantz realised it needed to be in the sheet until people mentioned it. And, for that matter, neither did I....

[Umbra of Chaos]

Well, you could edit the sheet while she's offline, but it would be prudent to tell her that you did.

[Knick]

Phoenix is going to accidentally cause massive property damage. Yay.

[lantzblades]

I meant CE 1 umbra, and Elf and the rest knew he could go dark there and went I edited my sheet she never pointed out a problem. I've been attacked for a clerical error. I don't mind changing it umbra, but I need elf here to ok it and for the rest of you to back off a bit.

[Cherry Lover]

Also, Knick, you might want to be careful about sending Zouken after Toshi and Sakura, because Rider is going to be heading in that direction as well, and you can probably take a good guess what Rider's reaction to Zouken (once she finds out who he is, anyway) is going to be....