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[YOLF]

Magos, you should probably just alter the "magic resistance" in the Hunter to "Supernatural Tolerance". Most magic and powers that affect Spirits, Angels or Demons don't hurt Strix anyways even if some Blood Sorcery and Disciplines can, but their Shadow Potency does offer defense against the ones that can if they're directly used against them.

[Lycodrake]

Daiki, where are you? ;~;

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Magos, you should probably just alter the "magic resistance" in the Hunter to "Supernatural Tolerance". Most magic and powers that affect Spirits, Angels or Demons don't hurt Strix anyways even if some Blood Sorcery and Disciplines can, but their Shadow Potency does offer defense against the ones that can if they're directly used against them.

Right but even then that damage is reduced to bashing, and only powers that inflict aggravated damage do it.

[YOLF]

You've already put that in the sheet. The point is, just MR C+ in the sheet isn't accurate, so you should alter it to Supernatural Tolerance C+.

[Brahmastra]

Jenn, Excalibur is only A++, not A+++.

Also, you should probably note in the sheet that without Prana Burst, she has the physical abilities of a Thai ladyboy in 6-inch heels.

[Elf]

Jenn, Excalibur is only A++, not A+++.

Fixed.

Also, you should probably note in the sheet that without Prana Burst, she has the physical abilities of a Thai ladyboy in 6-inch heels.

See, I always thought this is ridiculous and a bit of bad story telling.  She was trained as a Knight and worked her ass off as a squire.  I mean, did she always use Prana Burst to fight?  Pick up her sword?  There's no way she should be that weak when Prana Burst isn't activated.

So I'm going to say she's been working with Rin and Archer to get HUEG. So she's D on the Human scale when her Burst isn't activated. 

Also approvals updated.

[Brahmastra]

See, I always thought this is ridiculous and a bit of bad story telling.  She was trained as a Knight and worked her ass off as a squire.  I mean, did she always use Prana Burst to fight?  Pick up her sword?  There's no way she should be that weak when Prana Burst isn't activated.

She's a 5'Dwarf with the muscle mass of a twig. Hell, Rin is said to be significantly stronger and faster than Saber without Prana Burst.

Also, it's not like squiring is a physically demanding job. You hand a dude his weapons and help him get his armor on. That's about it.

The only reason Saber isnt literally physically weaker than the Avenger from the 3rd war (who was basically just a normal guy, not even the HA one) is because Merlin made her SPESHUL by shoving a dragon into her while she was in the womb.

So I'm going to say she's been working with Rin and Archer to get HUEG. So she's D on the Human scale when her Burst isn't activated. 

Keep in mind her Speed and Agility would both also be reliant on PB. She'll probably not be a D (probably B++ or something) on Human Scale, but she's still not that fast without PB.

[YOLF]

While it's canon and we can't really do much to refute it, it's still a pretty dumb contrivance that Saber's Servant level stats are all dependent entirely on Prana Burst when other Servants from her era WITHOUT IT have high tier attributes.

I mean, yes, it'd kind of make sense if she only had lower Servants stats without taking into account Prana Burst, but I don't think there is any good reason at all for her to only be as physically strong as a modern human teenager, especially taking into account that she did train to be a Knight and all that shazz.

Far as I'm concerned it's one of those iffy Nasu things we have no choice but to shake our heads with a sigh and accept.

[Lycodrake]

I had no idea that Fate/Prototype: Fragments had been started, but now that I know about it: very nice choice, Brah/Chris, to use Fragments' Rider and expand upon him so much.

though I'm obviously more interested in a second female Lancer, and Fragments' seems to be Brynhilder~<3

[Brahmastra]

Fragments Servants are:

Saber: Obviously King Arthur.
Archer: Unrevealed, but heavily implied to be Arjuna
Rider: Ramesses II
Lancer: Brynhildr
Berserker: Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde
Assassin: Typhoid Mary
Caster: Paracelsus.

[Lycodrake]

Archer: Unrevealed, but heavily implied to be Arjuna

Yeah, saw the rest named or implied in Brynhildr's case on the wiki.
Oh? Arjuna would be rather awesome, imho.

[Cherry Lover]

Mil, we're still waiting on you to post in Kuro's dorm.