Fate/EXTRA - The original game

[Cherry Lover]

The US doesn't have any large deserts, though....

[lantzblades]

doesn't have to be large, the point still stands

[Cherry Lover]

doesn't have to be large, the point still stands

I very much doubt the US is the only part of the world with deserts that lack significant resources. And, for that matter, I don't think the US does lack resources, it just tends not to mine them because it's cheaper to employ miners in Africa or China.

[Alice]

Well, I think we do have some decently sized deserts, more to the Southwest and towards California. But I don't think the US would be the last safe haven really, considering how entrenched we are with stuff involving commerce. Really, I think the desert area would likely be more in the Middle East, though that's just my guess. ^_^"

More on the game itself, what was everyone's first route, or what route do you plan on playing when you actually do play?

[Cherry Lover]

Well, I think we do have some decently sized deserts, more to the Southwest and towards California. But I don't think the US would be the last safe haven really, considering how entrenched we are with stuff involving commerce. Really, I think the desert area would likely be more in the Middle East, though that's just my guess. ^_^"

Yeah, I wouldn't see the US as the last safe-haven either. It's too powerful a country. If they're after resources, though, then the Middle East is unlikely. One thing Lantz is overlooking, though, is the idea that Rin might be in an area that the Harways do nominally control, but they have no way to locate her. Or, at least, she might have temporarily gone to such a place for the purpose of doing what she needed to do.

More on the game itself, what was everyone's first route, or what route do you plan on playing when you actually do play?

Hmm, probably Caster. She sounds interesting, and Archer I know already....

[GabrieliosP]

Finished my first playthough with Saber!

Now, to Archer!

[lantzblades]

Archer was my first play though and honestly my favorite

and I never said America would be the last safe haven. It is just a country with deserts so it fits a possible location for Rin to transmit from. And I didn't overlook anything I dismissed the idea because extra rin should be smart enough to know that is a suicidal plan

[Cherry Lover]

Well, a lot of countries have deserts, most of them bigger than those in the US. Still, I guess we can't say for sure.

[Elf]

Well, the US does have Death Valley, which is yeah.

However, from the tone of Extra, I'm pretty sure it was in the Middle East.  Hell, for all we know the Harways could be controlling the States.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, the US does have Death Valley, which is yeah.

Well, yeah, although I don't think that is anything like the same scale as the Sahara....

However, from the tone of Extra, I'm pretty sure it was in the Middle East.  Hell, for all we know the Harways could be controlling the States.

Yeah, honestly I would say the Harways would be controlling the US. It's simply too powerful a country for them to leave it alone.

[lantzblades]

i seriously doubt they control the states, logically they would incorporate Canada first and well. we have been under a king, we will not go back, and we will not allow our allies to be targeted either. Canadians are nice but we aren't pushovers, we would poison the water and burn the forests before we would let the haraways have control of our nation. and given the resource crunch I doubt the haraways would take the risk against us thus leaving lesser targets like the US free.

[Cherry Lover]

i seriously doubt they control the states, logically they would incorporate Canada first and well.

I can't see how they can really be in control of the world without the US.

we have been under a king, we will not go back

Erm, you're still under a King. Well, a Queen, anyway....

and we will not allow our allies to be targeted either.

Given that their faction is the "Western European Conglomerate", I think they are your allies....

Canadians are nice but we aren't pushovers, we would poison the water and burn the forests before we would let the haraways have control of our nation. and given the resource crunch I doubt the haraways would take the risk against us thus leaving lesser targets like the US free.

Or, they could just bypass Canada and take the US....

Also, I don't see how Canada is any less opposed to being ruled in that way than most other Western countries. None of them would take too well to it as things stand, but they can also very easily be tricked into it.

[Elf]

However taking the US is a very bad idea.  If someone tried to take over the country they would be met with excessive deadly force.  There's a reason why our military is one of the most feared in the world.

Now they could be allies to the Harways, like they're allies to England.

[Cherry Lover]

However taking the US is a very bad idea.  If someone tried to take over the country they would be met with excessive deadly force.  There's a reason why our military is one of the most feared in the world.

Now they could be allies to the Harways, like they're allies to England.

Well, that assumes they did so by force. I don't think it's at all implausible that they could take over the US by negotiation or subterfuge. The Harways seem like the sort of people the US right would support, at least initially.

I mean, I would assume the Harways didn't conquer Europe by fighting, because our military isn't exactly non-existent, and the US would help if necessary. So, if they can do that to us they can do that to the US.

[lantzblades]

I think nasu limp wristed the whole issue, i don't think he considered the historical perspective in the "real world"