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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2014, 12:51:17 AM »
Yeah....

Well, I would imagine that would be the main thrust of the story, possibly along perhaps with making Shirou hang around (although the two are somewhat linked). I'd imagine she'd want to keep Archer, but that is something even seventeen-year-old Rin could have done had he not died....

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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2014, 12:53:55 AM »
Well, actually Archer being there opens up a lot of wounds for her, including a broken heart.  Especially since she realized he was Emiya Shirou years later. 


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« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2014, 01:18:51 AM »
Yeah, that makes sense, which is why I thought she'd probably want him to stay around. Losing him is something she'd regret, although her sister would probably take top priority....

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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2014, 02:35:34 AM »
So! I have a concept for a fic (Not sure if I should post it here or into the Crossover section):

Take a normal, living person, a relatively normal fan of the Type-Moon works... and have them summoned as a Servant in the Holy Grail War. Every time they fail, which obviously they will, they get sent careening through the Kaleidoscope into other realms of fiction before eventually returning to being summoned as a Servant in the Holy Grail War. Each time they go careening through the Multiverse, they go to an even larger number of universes before returning to the Holy Grail War.



I also have a question to get thoughts on, at what point a person crosses the line from 'person' to 'Heroic Spirit', and at what point they start getting 'squeezed' into a Class Container, but I'm not sure where to post such a question, should I do so here or in another Thread?

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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2014, 04:28:28 AM »
I also have a question to get thoughts on, at what point a person crosses the line from 'person' to 'Heroic Spirit', and at what point they start getting 'squeezed' into a Class Container, but I'm not sure where to post such a question, should I do so here or in another Thread?

General Nasuverse questions go in here: http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,96.0.html

Though I can try and answer it in here (though it's probably better to get confirmation in the thread I just linked, as I'm basically going off the top of my head.)

Once someone qualifies to become a Heroic Spirit, I believe they enter the Throne at death. But since the Throne defies time, their spirit can still be accessed at any point in time by the Grail ritual.

As for the class container, I believe that happens once they're summoned into the War itself. Who they were in life merely determines what containers they are best suited for and are likely to be summoned in.

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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2014, 04:37:32 AM »
I also have a question to get thoughts on, at what point a person crosses the line from 'person' to 'Heroic Spirit', and at what point they start getting 'squeezed' into a Class Container, but I'm not sure where to post such a question, should I do so here or in another Thread?

General Nasuverse questions go in here: http://darksidemoon.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,96.0.html

Though I can try and answer it in here (though it's probably better to get confirmation in the thread I just linked, as I'm basically going off the top of my head.)

Once someone qualifies to become a Heroic Spirit, I believe they enter the Throne at death. But since the Throne defies time, their spirit can still be accessed at any point in time by the Grail ritual.

As for the class container, I believe that happens once they're summoned into the War itself. Who they were in life merely determines what containers they are best suited for and are likely to be summoned in.

Also, welcome to the forum! :)
Thank you!

And yeah, I understand that to be a 'proper' Heroic Spirit you have to be, y'know, a spirit (Aka, dead), but I'm referring to the point where someone goes from "Human" to "Hero" to "Hero Worthy of the Throne" given a set of Fate stats for an OC. I don't want to put the stats here without being in the right place since it's kind of an info-dump.  :-[

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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2014, 05:15:32 AM »
No problem at all. :)

And ahh, gotcha. Hmm, that I'd probably have to look up, my brain's a bit frazzled tonight. ^^" If you post your question in the Questions thread though, you'll probably get a more detailed answer. :)

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« Reply #97 on: February 12, 2014, 03:01:16 PM »
So! I have a concept for a fic (Not sure if I should post it here or into the Crossover section):

Take a normal, living person, a relatively normal fan of the Type-Moon works... and have them summoned as a Servant in the Holy Grail War. Every time they fail, which obviously they will, they get sent careening through the Kaleidoscope into other realms of fiction before eventually returning to being summoned as a Servant in the Holy Grail War. Each time they go careening through the Multiverse, they go to an even larger number of universes before returning to the Holy Grail War.



I also have a question to get thoughts on, at what point a person crosses the line from 'person' to 'Heroic Spirit', and at what point they start getting 'squeezed' into a Class Container, but I'm not sure where to post such a question, should I do so here or in another Thread?

Hmm, OK, how exactly do you intend for this to work? I'm assuming the person will pick up abilities as they go along, but how will that happen? I think some more explanation might be helpful here.

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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #98 on: February 12, 2014, 04:25:00 PM »
Normal person meets an alternate (and drunk, and dickish) Zeltretch and tees them off. Cue getting cursed and cast out into the Kaleidoscope. But this is a guy with A rank luck, and it shows that he doesn't get royally, *royally* screwed over.

He gets thrown into other realities, but usually near other young heroes or people just getting started as being heroes, or occasionally in the place of the normal hero for that world (near the protagonists of other series or replacing the protagonist of a series) and he struggles with them, saved by others or his own luck and growing skill, until he randomly goes careening through the Kaleidoscope again until he ends back up at the Holy Grail War, summoned as Archer again.

Each time he leaves the Holy Grail War, he visits the same dimensions in the same order, but adds more to each time. Sort of like a Pendulum that gets more mass at the apex of each swing, he travels further through the multiverse before ending back up at the same places.

The only reason this guy survives early on is his A rank luck. He outright, straight up gets fucking lucky, no two ways about it. He ends up with people that train him or train with him  in low-power / low-ridiculousness settings at the beginning, and its only later, as he becomes more competent, that he ends up thrown into more dangerous worlds/settings (aside from F/SN).

This guy also has that 'Prodigy' skill, which I like to think of 'Shonen Hero Power', because it represents his ability to learn at a ridiculous pace (While not as ridiculous as learning a skill that takes decades to master in a manner of days, it's still unfair).

Does that answer your question? :)

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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #99 on: March 16, 2014, 06:45:29 AM »
Speaking of Harry Dresden, what about a Fusion between the Dresden-verse and the Nasu-verse? I mean, they even use the same terms, just Dresden-verse is a lot more OP.

The White Council is a rouge branch of the Mage's Association, just that the Mage's Association doesn't have the means to really stop the White Council. That and the Mage's Association apparently hates America, and the White Council is more moral fag in is approach than the Association's "Keep up the Masquerade At All Costs" approach.

Anyway! Post good end Heaven's Feel, the Association finally decides that all this supernatural crap that keeps happening in America, specifically Chicago, needs to be investigated. So sort of against her will, Tohsaka Rin is the one sent to find out what has been happening. And boy, there was a whole world she hadn't even been aware of.

Especially when she ends up crossing paths with the one Wizard in the phone book, one Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden.

This could be currently with the books, or maybe even in the beginning or middle of the Dresden Files.

Some fun stuff could be Rin trying to take Mister home with her, and Bob trying to get a peek under her skirt.

And maybe Rin and Harry lamenting on their lack of love lives.

"There's this one guy I just can't get over. One version's long dead and the other's married my sister."

"My last girlfriend is fighting from turning into a vampire and had to leave me." (Or "My last girlfriend became a vampire and I had to kill her to save our daughter." Depending on when in the book series this is set.)

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« Reply #100 on: March 16, 2014, 10:57:59 PM »
Hmm, this looks interesting as a concept. I don't know much about the Dresdenverse, though, so it's hard for me to give much comment on that aspect.

Certainly Rin is not the typical magus. I'm not sure why exactly they'd pick her of all people to go, but I guess it makes sense for the story. Also, if stuff gets bad, she does have Rider to call on (in principle at least)....

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Re: Fanfic ideas thread
« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2014, 08:10:07 PM »
Certainly Rin is not the typical magus. I'm not sure why exactly they'd pick her of all people to go, but I guess it makes sense for the story. Also, if stuff gets bad, she does have Rider to call on (in principle at least)....

Actually, Harry himself has enough power to hold his own against Servants.  He was sort of "bred" to do that.  (His mother made sure that there were conditions met with his conception to give him the power to sort of punch out Cuthulu if needed.)  I mean, against Saber, Lancer, and Berserker he'd be hosed, but he'd definitely give Rider and Archer a good fight if not outright beat Caster.  Especially when he's the Winter Knight.

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« Reply #102 on: March 22, 2014, 08:31:28 PM »
Isn't he a mage? Because Rider has Rank B Magic Resistance, so I think it's unlikely he could do anything much to her. I'm certainly not sure why he would be able to take on Rider but not Lancer....

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« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2014, 12:40:52 AM »
Kinda with Cherry here, Harry's a badass powerhouse (Even compared to Rin), but Servants are, well, Servants. Rider, properly supplied, is absurdly fast and tough and can summon THE Pegasus to whoop your ass. And as Cherry Lover said, B-Rank Magic Resistance = Yeah, you're boned.

Also, they use the same terms a lot, but the Dresdenverse masquerade is far thinner and in more danger. They're practically still in the Age of the Gods what with the amount of monsters running around. Sure you have VAMPIRES, things that resemble Dead Apostles (the Red Court) and the White Court, but you also have more easily accessed demons as well as relatively common Fae, something that doesn't really happen in current Nasuverse. So it'll be hard to mesh those two things.

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« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2014, 12:47:41 AM »
Kinda with Cherry here, Harry's a badass powerhouse (Even compared to Rin), but Servants are, well, Servants. Rider, properly supplied, is absurdly fast and tough and can summon THE Pegasus to whoop your ass. And as Cherry Lover said, B-Rank Magic Resistance = Yeah, you're boned.

Yeah, and Rider under Sakura is definitely "properly supplied", especially post-HF.

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Also, they use the same terms a lot, but the Dresdenverse masquerade is far thinner and in more danger. They're practically still in the Age of the Gods what with the amount of monsters running around. Sure you have VAMPIRES, things that resemble Dead Apostles (the Red Court) and the White Court, but you also have more easily accessed demons as well as relatively common Fae, something that doesn't really happen in current Nasuverse. So it'll be hard to mesh those two things.

Yeah, I remember there being issues with meshing the two things when I discussed a previous crossover between the two. Unfortunately, though, I'm not aware enough of the story to really say.