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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3945 on: January 15, 2014, 05:25:30 AM »
Dunno to what you refer Arch. Even if I did I'm not sure why you think I'll answer when you keep insulting me

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« Reply #3946 on: January 15, 2014, 05:28:03 AM »
The "psychic trap" thing does seem to be too much. ...And would likely not work on Forest or Tom anyway since the former has been at this for thousands of years and is naturally gifted, and the latter is a psychic prodigy who's naturally OP in that regard.

And as I just mentioned, he's referring to the "psychic trap" thing. It does seem rather conveniently brought up. That sort of thing is stuff that needs to be on the character sheet.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3947 on: January 15, 2014, 05:30:41 AM »
Dunno to what you refer Arch. Even if I did I'm not sure why you think I'll answer when you keep insulting me
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3948 on: January 15, 2014, 05:32:24 AM »
It's not a trap intentionally set for invaders, it works on them as well however. It is a trap to contain and control his mind. As it says in the bio he was a berserker, insane and that's why he trained to begin with.

he works on invaders because it's supposed to be an unbreakable cage

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3949 on: January 15, 2014, 05:36:25 AM »
It's not a trap intentionally set for invaders, it works on them as well however. It is a trap to contain and control his mind. As it says in the bio he was a berserker, insane and that's why he trained to begin with.

he works on invaders because it's supposed to be an unbreakable cage
...Except that doesn't really work like that. He should have Mental Pollution of some kind, not no indication of this what so ever.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3950 on: January 15, 2014, 05:40:14 AM »
No idea what you are on about Arch, nor do I particularly care

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« Reply #3951 on: January 15, 2014, 05:40:26 AM »
To be frank, the problem with that explanation for me is just that I'm not seeing how, from:

> Became a berserker, had to train to control it
> Grasped inner peace, communed with the elements, got his RM, yadda yadda

We get to:

> Psychic trap on his mind
> To hold himself back
> But also works on intrusions into his mind
> Oh and it's unbreakable so he can never go berserk and insane ever
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3952 on: January 15, 2014, 05:48:48 AM »
To be frank, the problem with that explanation for me is just that I'm not seeing how, from:

> Became a berserker, had to train to control it
> Grasped inner peace, communed with the elements, got his RM, yadda yadda

We get to:

> Psychic trap on his mind
> To hold himself back
> But also works on intrusions into his mind
> Oh and it's unbreakable so he can never go berserk and insane ever
Exactly, it's a gigantic leap that conveniently shows up now with no pretext and a flimsy excuse.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3953 on: January 15, 2014, 05:51:02 AM »
Why would you train have assed YOLF? He trained to control he and grasping inner peace implies that he succeeded.

and it's a prison cell designing one that a prisoner can exit or enter easily is dumb.

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« Reply #3954 on: January 15, 2014, 05:54:16 AM »
What YOLF said. Heed his words of wisdom and follow the doctrine of Sir Bonesington. :3

But yeah, it seems a rather contrived conclusion to get to, and I'm not sure how you get to the conclusion you got to from where you started from. It seems a bit too convenient given the current context as well.

...Also, I'm not sure how the post above this one really helps explain anything. It doesn't matter if the training was half assed or not, it still doesn't make sense that said training would grant such mental abilities.

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« Reply #3955 on: January 15, 2014, 06:00:15 AM »
Well, I get the idea that being at complete peace with oneself would lead to the person being very resistant to psychic or otherwise any sort of mental interference, it's not that big of a stretch. The choice of words to explain it, of his mind being a "prison" or a "psychic trap" is what seems odd to me and doesn't follow the previous logic very well, I think.
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[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3956 on: January 15, 2014, 06:02:15 AM »
This is the application of a "tactile" description of the result of the training. Martial arts movies often do the mind scape idea.

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« Reply #3957 on: January 15, 2014, 06:07:15 AM »
Well, I get the idea that being at complete peace with oneself would lead to the person being very resistant to psychic or otherwise any sort of mental interference, it's not that big of a stretch. The choice of words to explain it, of his mind being a "prison" or a "psychic trap" is what seems odd to me and doesn't follow the previous logic very well, I think.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #3958 on: January 15, 2014, 06:12:01 AM »
Sorry it took longer then an hour, got a bit delayed.

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« Reply #3959 on: January 15, 2014, 07:38:24 AM »
The best contemporary example I can point to is batman TAS where the villains try to screw with Batman's head. His mind is personified in a certain way, like a vault or such. Similarly Satoshi 's mind is a prison, once you enter you're locked in. He is imprisoning his darkness inside his mind and after 2000 years there's a lot of memories and such to cage.