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[YOLF]

You'd need some strong magic mumbo-jumbo bounded fields or stuff to hold a Servant prisoner anyhow, given they can become immaterial by shifting into spirit form.

[lantzblades]

Yolf the point was possible versus impossible.

and as I have said and demonstrated with names and mike I'm willing to work out events and go with the flow when I am asked so Satoshi can be kidnapped easier than you think

[Cherry Lover]

You'd need some strong magic mumbo-jumbo bounded fields or stuff to hold a Servant prisoner anyhow, given they can become immaterial by shifting into spirit form.

Yeah, exactly. And, an anti-magic field would cut her off from her prana supply, which means you'd need another way to give her prana. Plus, even then I think it'd be difficult to do anything more than contain her, since any attempt to interact with her would allow her to fight back (you couldn't use anti-magic devices on her because she is literally made of magic, and thus would die if you did).

Like I said, Satoshi only managed to hold her prisoner because she wanted him to. I don't think he even used reinforced ropes etc., so she could have trivially broken out.

Yolf the point was possible versus impossible.

and as I have said and demonstrated with names and mike I'm willing to work out events and go with the flow when I am asked so Satoshi can be kidnapped easier than you think

As I said, I can't see how Bloble could do it, though. I don't get the impression that his character is overly strong (he needed to get help just to kidnap a generic vampire mook, and I'm pretty sure Satoshi could defeat one of those without even breaking a sweat), and nor does he have any allies on Satoshi's level.

[YOLF]

Yolf the point was possible versus impossible.

and as I have said and demonstrated with names and mike I'm willing to work out events and go with the flow when I am asked so Satoshi can be kidnapped easier than you think

One thing is organizing events with other people's characters and your own. Another is them happening due to forceful contrivance.

[lantzblades]

It's not forced yolf

[YOLF]

That should be left to decide after it is written. :V

[Bloble]

At the moment, my guy is weaker than 90% of the PCs. As was said, he needed assistance just to capture an ordinary vampire.

However, that does give me an idea. Bounded fields, huh? Looks like I might need to grab myself a magus.

[Milbunk]

I could have Medea help you if you want, her magic might be good enough for this kind of thing.

[Bloble]

Sure. Negotiation would be slightly problematic considering their respective neuroses, but I could see SPOILER reaching out to her. Question is, would she be willing to speak with him?

[Milbunk]

Hmm well let's see her main goal at this moment is to make a second grail war, perhaps if she notices your vampire collection going on you could make a deal with her to feed her with vampires that nobody would care about and she would give you the capabilities to capture stronger ones. (They would make excellent prana batteries and so long as no one would care what happened to them then it would lower the amount of attention she could grab doing her normal mana sucking.)

Of course she's prolly remain all shadowy and meeting at her main base would be a big old no but outside of that it doesn't sound to unreasonable.

[lantzblades]

Perhaps Yolf but the concept is not forced

[Cherry Lover]

Hmm well let's see her main goal at this moment is to make a second grail war, perhaps if she notices your vampire collection going on you could make a deal with her to feed her with vampires that nobody would care about and she would give you the capabilities to capture stronger ones. (They would make excellent prana batteries and so long as no one would care what happened to them then it would lower the amount of attention she could grab doing her normal mana sucking.)

Of course she's prolly remain all shadowy and meeting at her main base would be a big old no but outside of that it doesn't sound to unreasonable.

Well, that works, but capturing PCs would definitely breach the "no-one cares" rule....

[YOLF]

Perhaps Yolf but the concept is not forced

Saying essentially "my character can't usually be caught, buuuut if you want to make some story happen I can make it easier for him to be caught even though so far restraining him has proven all but impossible", is suggesting something that is forced from conception.

Unless you do an exceptional job writing it. Which, please don't get me wrong, is an effort I'm wary of from your part.

But I digress, and I don't want to be responsible for another page long discussion, so let's close the matter here.

[Elf]

POST!

Also, if vampires keep disappearing it could create a problem.  Not all the vampires here are working for or worshiping Frost for example.  There are those who would go to Law Unto Herself for aid.

(Hell, if she found out about it she might go digging herself.)

Also Kenna approved.

[YOLF]

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