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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4425 on: January 28, 2014, 02:13:08 PM »
why does everything in this RP have to be made difficult

here's the reason: if he brought them they'd have severe braindamage, like you said

willfully extending people's existences at the price of making them vegetables is a humongous asshole thing to do

nonexistent dilemma solved

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4426 on: January 28, 2014, 02:16:24 PM »
why does everything in this RP have to be made difficult

Because Lantz is too damn inflexible about everything....

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here's the reason: if he brought them they'd have severe braindamage, like you said

willfully extending people's existences at the price of making them vegetables is a humongous asshole thing to do

nonexistent dilemma solved

Yeah, I can't imagine them coming back completely unscathed....

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4427 on: January 28, 2014, 02:27:53 PM »
Daiki said no and I never argued. No idea where you get disrespect from. It makes no logical sense names his healing is flawless, kinda the point of the power in the first place.

this incident is a forced failure, I hate writing those because I have no way of having the character beat the odds. It's a scripted failure from start to finish, there's no positive here and any exit I come up with causes shitty outcomes in the aftermath.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4428 on: January 28, 2014, 02:30:01 PM »
Posted.


Lucas is virtually unstoppable right now, with the surrounding nature having overgrown to monstrous proportions (special ability activated and all). It'll begin to wear off if the fight drags on for long, though.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4429 on: January 28, 2014, 02:35:47 PM »
Daiki said no and I never argued. No idea where you get disrespect from. It makes no logical sense names his healing is flawless, kinda the point of the power in the first place.

How does he have that sort of power?

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this incident is a forced failure, I hate writing those because I have no way of having the character beat the odds. It's a scripted failure from start to finish, there's no positive here and any exit I come up with causes shitty outcomes in the aftermath.

Well, that is a problem you get when you have a character who won't naturally fail at stuff. You end up having to contrive reasons why he would fail in order to not end up controlling everyone else.

But, right now, even if he gets down there in time, how will he save them? Ruu and Mooncake's character are both attacking everyone, and he won't have long before they're irreversibly brain-damaged.

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« Reply #4430 on: January 28, 2014, 02:46:34 PM »
Avalon, in canon it is unaffected by the true magics, in other words in this case time. Meaning wound severity doesn't matter except with brain death in the case of others.

Satoshi can walk through basically everything those two can throw and besides they are a bit busy at the moment.

and he does fail, it's just that this one is forced, there's no progression that can make him succeed or fail naturally. The only two ideas I have aren't great resolutions but they are all I have.

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« Reply #4431 on: January 28, 2014, 02:59:43 PM »
Avalon, in canon it is unaffected by the true magics, in other words in this case time. Meaning wound severity doesn't matter except with brain death in the case of others.

Avalon only works when Saber is around, though. Hence why Shirou couldn't self-heal....

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Satoshi can walk through basically everything those two can throw and besides they are a bit busy at the moment.

That seems rather powerful....

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and he does fail, it's just that this one is forced, there's no progression that can make him succeed or fail naturally. The only two ideas I have aren't great resolutions but they are all I have.

It's a bit silly to be contriving a failure in this manner. If you really can't fail then why did you even ask? It's absurd to ask someone "do you mind if I do this?" and then complain about not being able to find a way to avoid it when they say "no, don't do it"....

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4432 on: January 28, 2014, 03:00:08 PM »
Sometimes people try to do things and it just doesn't work

and meanwhile progression can eat a bag of dicks

And if it does work flawlessly then it's fucking terrible storytelling

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« Reply #4433 on: January 28, 2014, 03:11:17 PM »
Names nasu made up avalon's abilities, talk to him.

the point of asking was to be considerate of daiki and to avoid inconsistencies in the powers presented.

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« Reply #4434 on: January 28, 2014, 03:12:37 PM »
the point of asking was to be considerate of daiki and to avoid inconsistencies in the powers presented.

But in the process of doing so you seem to be being inconsiderate of everyone else....

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« Reply #4435 on: January 28, 2014, 03:20:18 PM »
I just love how everything is going to shit and blood is flying everywhere and people are dying, and most of this was caused by misunderstandings, or could be peacefully solved by talking.

It's hilarious.
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« Reply #4436 on: January 28, 2014, 03:21:38 PM »
I just love how everything is going to shit and blood is flying everywhere and people are dying, and most of this was caused by misunderstandings, or could be peacefully solved by talking.

It's hilarious.

Well, it's a bit late for solving it peacefully, at least where Ruu is concerned....

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4437 on: January 28, 2014, 03:24:14 PM »
Well, it could have been solved peacefully by talking.

Not anymore though! 8D
[13:38:37] Helligator: Depends on the god, but gods by definition in Nasuverse are strong because they have divine authority.
[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4438 on: January 28, 2014, 03:35:21 PM »
Names nasu made up avalon's abilities, talk to him.
And Shirou manages to die just fine

not flawless, there ya go

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #4439 on: January 28, 2014, 04:17:40 PM »
Post! ...A rather shitty one in my opinion, but hopefully it works. ...Also, now I have to edit Tom's sheet soon.

And well... Honestly, I don't see how Toshi could heal them with Avalon at this point, assuming he could even remotely rip the sheath out of his body in time. They'd already be gone from the blood loss alone. Plus as Nachos pointed out, Shirou has died just fine even with Avalon active.

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