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[Cherry Lover]

By the way, can you guys please wait for me to get a post done before you continue any further? Otherwise I'm going to have another impossible situation where I can't post because everything has happened before I get the chance to react to it and I'm stuck scrambling for an excuse.

[Alice]

Sure, I'm fine with waiting. ...Though I'm hardly the one to say it, considering I just went. Might give me time to make that post less shitty too in the meantime, possibly. ^^"

[The Man With All The Cute Boats]

Gotta post fast, sonic

I think I'll be rejoining soon, actually. I have a character in mind, a sap who can't truly die, who routinely enters other continuities and who kills daemons, stronk mythological baddies, dragons and even gods, and who performs literal miracles routinely. He's also so strong and has so much endurance he can wear his heavy armor with little to no penalty to his speed, and can wield immensely huge weapons to great effect and damage. He's also an incredibly capable user of fire magic, who can set fire to just about everything and its mother.

I'll make a sheet later. For now, got class to get to.

(try to guess who he is)

[Mooncake]

I'm fine with waiting too. Gives me more time to come up with a response

[Aiden]

Gotta post fast, sonic

I think I'll be rejoining soon, actually. I have a character in mind, a sap who can't truly die, who routinely enters other continuities and who kills daemons, stronk mythological baddies, dragons and even gods, and who performs literal miracles routinely. He's also so strong and has so much endurance he can wear his heavy armor with little to no penalty to his speed, and can wield immensely huge weapons to great effect and damage. He's also an incredibly capable user of fire magic, who can set fire to just about everything and its mother.

I'll make a sheet later. For now, got class to get to.

(try to guess who he is)

Your average Elder Scrolls protagonist with save scumming?

[YOLF]

I was going to guess the Champion of Cyrodiil or the Dragonborn specifically, but what Aiden said sounds about right.

[Milbunk]

So reading this correctly did someone just get summoned by Gabriel right when he's about to be ambushed by Downy?

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Names nasu made up avalon's abilities, talk to him.

the point of asking was to be considerate of daiki and to avoid inconsistencies in the powers presented.

Avalon has NEVER worked without Saber nearby. The only time you could say it didn't was when Kiritsugu implanted it inside Shirou, but even then, I'm pretty sure Urobutcher and Nasu said "Trace amounts of her prana" or some shit allowed it to work, at least just long enough on Shirou.  In other words, if Saber is nowhere nearby, it doesn't fucking work. Avalon is useless in this situation. And at this point, yeah. Brain damage or death would be setting in if you used Avalon.... or more accurately, they're both already medically dead. Avalon won't heal that.

Daiki, Van might be brought back, I'm flipping a coin on that one. Otherwise, Shuya's too far gone to bring back. Whatever Van does after the embrace is up to you, but Jack won't be embracing Isa. He'd end up on the fast track to becoming a Draugr if he did so.

[lantzblades]

Alice don't go adding that to my description of him healing others, it doesn't work that way.

Arch he's her son, she's always present, no I'm not debating, I'm telling you how it works.

nice idea names but sorry big difference between Shirou and this.

in short please stop trying to override the way my characters work guys. It's not your business to determine that, it's mine. Thank you

[YOLF]

I'm sorry but some "oh she's always with him.... in spirit. Awwwwwwww " explanation doesn't really work that well to justify why Avalon works lantz. xD

Unless you meant it works because he's Arturia's biological son. And even that is doubtful. Hell, it would be easier to believe if you just said the Lady Of The Lake offered Avalon (the sheath) to him after Arturia came back from Avalon (the place), cause the latter thing apparently happened in the backstory of Satoshi's world, if I recall correctly?

[The Man With All The Cute Boats]

Elder scrolls protags with save scum? Hadn't even crossed my mind, really. I guess, if I think about it more, it does fit the description...

Though I'm talking about a more in-game story "can't die" thing. And killing real gods, not daedric lords or the dragon god's brother. And in-game continuity crossing.

Hint: the continuity crossing is the multiplayer.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Even if he is the biological son of Saber, the thing with Avalon still shouldn't work. It needs Saber specifically to work, otherwise you're just fucking with canon for no other reason than to make your Sue awesome.  Who am I kidding, you've already done that, but this is one of those non-negotiable facts here Lantz - Avalon doesn't work without Saber. Otherwise it isn't the Nasuverse. For that matter, while Avalon can heal fatal wounds, there's a difference between fatal wounds, and bringing the dead back to life.

Isabella is without a doubt dead. Her heart was ripped out, and her own death killed Van. Avalon can't heal that. Not now.

Elder scrolls protags with save scum? Hadn't even crossed my mind, really. I guess, if I think about it more, it does fit the description...

Though I'm talking about a more in-game story "can't die" thing. And killing real gods, not daedric lords or the dragon god's brother. And in-game continuity crossing.

Hint: the continuity crossing is the multiplayer.

...OH GOD YOU'RE BRINGING IN THE PROTAGONIST FROM DARK SOULS!

[lantzblades]

Guess what arch? You have no say in how I do things. Deal with it

[Cherry Lover]

No, he doesn't, but explaining why Satoshi can use Avalon in a manner that seemingly violates canon would make people less inclined to call bullshit on it....

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Guess what arch? You have no say in how I do things. Deal with it

Guess what? For some reason, you seem to have thrown out all the canon of the Nasuverse. You should just publish 'Of Swords and Sorcery' as original fiction because you're basically taking nothing from the setting if this basic fucking rule is ignored.