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[Gray]

Elf while you're here anything wrong with Grim and Avvy?

My guy has neutral experience with vampires. He was tossed into the Nexus by an AU!Vampire!Funny Valentine with D4C but also saw an AU!FullVampire! Giorno help him save innocents from his dad DIO. These meetings were brief and strange to him so it leaves him on a neutral ground when it comes to vampires. He'll see what they are like but he'll be weary. If they are merciless and misusing their powers he'll hunt it they're chill he'll not hunt.

[Mooncake]

I actually really want Gil to meet Archer, Lancer, and Forest. Lancer and Archer specifically, because he'll have no idea why they're hostile to him.

[Kat]

My char will have to overcome prejudice against vampires.

But he still thinks that werewolves are Stand users. Inb4 Diego Brando.

[Gray]

My char will have to overcome prejudice against vampires.

But he still thinks that werewolves are Stand users. Inb4 Diego Brando.

Well he is a scientist. He generally would work off prior experience and build his hypothesies from there. While he has been exposed to weird stuff it doesn't automatically all weird stuff is true so he at least tries to explain it with what he understands in this case being stands (pun intended). So what he does all seems reasonable and in character given his background. Though don't have him irrattionally cling to the idea, part of science is adapting to new evidence as time passes.

[Cherry Lover]

Brah, a couple of comments on your sheet. Firstly, diplomatic immunity doesn't apply to Princesses as a general rule (if it did, then technically Toshi is a Prince...) and, secondly, that it means absolutely fuck-all in the Nexus even if it does apply in her world.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Toshi isn't recognized by any governmental body and as such diplomatic immunity doesn't apply to him.

[Brahmastra]

What Magos said

[Cherry Lover]

Doesn't matter. Diplomatic immunity is something that only the local government can grant. Being a princess doesn't get you it, you only get it by being a diplomat (and only in a country where you have diplomatic accreditation from the local government). Arresting a princess from a powerful country without very good reason will generally be avoided for practical reasons, yes, but they do not have any official legal immunity. And, since her country has no power in the Nexus and she cannot even prove it exists, there is no reason whatsoever for anyone to take the slightest bit of notice of her claimed immunity.

[Kat]

Satoshi is not even a prince. Firstly, he is a son of a commoner. Secondly, he is by no means heir to Arturia too, because among Celtic people approval of vassals was more important than the blood. That's why Gawain is the approved heir, and Mordred is not (who by blood has better claim than Satoshi).

/history lecture over/

[lantzblades]

Mike is correct, as for Satoshi, eh, matters for world, time etcetera. He's quite old and as the sheet says, nearly every job.

[Cherry Lover]

Satoshi is not even a prince. Firstly, he is a son of a commoner.

So? Being the son of a commoner doesn't mean you're not a prince, if your other parent is the King.

Secondly, he is by no means heir to Arturia too, because among Celtic people approval of vassals was more important than the blood. That's why Gawain is the approved heir, and Mordred is not (who by blood has better claim than Satoshi).

/history lecture over/

Yeah, and Celtic Kings didn't wear plate armour, live in massive stone castles or follow the ideals of chivalry either. I don't think you can use their real-life customs to say much about the legend of King Arthur....

As for Mordred, I believe that Saber refused to acknowledge her as her child for precisely that reason. If her true descent was known then she would be the rightful heir.

But, regardless, it doesn't really matter if he is her true heir, because the kingdom he would be heir to is long-gone. Still, I would imagine it is mostly Saber's decision, and Saber certainly sees Toshi as a prince.

[Kat]

So? Being the son of a commoner doesn't mean you're not a prince, if your other parent is the King.

Children from morganatic marriages do not have right to titles among European royal families, so Satoshi certainly is not a Prince.

Yeah, and Celtic Kings didn't wear plate armour, live in massive stone castles or follow the ideals of chivalry either. I don't think you can use their real-life customs to say much about the legend of King Arthur....

As for Mordred, I believe that Saber refused to acknowledge her as her child for precisely that reason. If her true descent was known then she would be the rightful heir.

The problem is, drawing sword from stone appears in earliest Celtic legends about Arthur, and it harkens back to the Celtic practice of choosing heirs within the same clan (sharing the same greatgrandfather) through various ritual practices. That later developed into tannistry to just forgo ritual practices and have vassals approve of the heir apparent.

And Britain was one of wealthier former provinces of Roman Empire. Britoroman maybe did not wear full plates, but the chain mail was the norm and they even managed to restore cavalry, hence why historic Arthur could buy Celts few more decades of peace.

[Cherry Lover]

So? Being the son of a commoner doesn't mean you're not a prince, if your other parent is the King.

Children from morganatic marriages do not have right to titles among European royal families, so Satoshi certainly is not a Prince.

Erm, no, that might be true in some areas, but it is notably not true in the UK or France, which is where the Arthurian legend was written. So, there is no reason to assume it would apply to King Arthur.

The problem is, drawing sword from stone appears in earliest Celtic legends about Arthur, and it harkens back to the Celtic practice of choosing heirs within the same clan (sharing the same greatgrandfather) through various ritual practices. That later developed into tannistry to just forgo ritual practices and have vassals approve of the heir apparent.

Well, sure, but Arthurian legend diverged from the original Celtic versions a long time ago, and it's clear that the version Nasu follows is based on the highly Anglicised and Francicised (yes, I did just make that word up) version that we have today.

[Brahmastra]

So? Being the son of a commoner doesn't mean you're not a prince, if your other parent is the King.

Children from morganatic marriages do not have right to titles among European royal families, so Satoshi certainly is not a Prince.

Erm, no, that might be true in some areas, but it is notably not true in the UK or France, which is where the Arthurian legend was written. So, there is no reason to assume it would apply to King Arthur.

This was 100% the case not even a few hundred years ago.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Bastards in general were out of the line of succession, and having a kid with a commoner was pretty much the same thing. Plus, saber is still technically married to Ginny, so yes, Satoshi is a bastard. He's out of the line of succession on general principal.