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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2100 on: December 12, 2013, 01:40:15 AM »
Sneak attacks are Caster and Arc's weaknesses, not Satoshi's...

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2101 on: December 12, 2013, 01:42:27 AM »
Which doesn't make sense, as if he can't defend against an attack and is also weak enough to be killed by Rider, then a sneak attack should kill him rather easily.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2102 on: December 12, 2013, 01:46:52 AM »
Which doesn't make sense, as if he can't defend against an attack and is also weak enough to be killed by Rider, then a sneak attack should kill him rather easily.

Rider is not weak.

The difference is presumably in how they fight. Plus the fact that Toshi trained for a long time to beat Gil specifically.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2103 on: December 12, 2013, 01:51:29 AM »
Then there's a good point in that the style that Raul uses is one Satoshi would have no defense against.

And I never stated Rider was weak, but compared to other 5th War Servants... she really doesn't stack up well.

Then there's the fact that you can't defend against an attack you don't see coming.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2104 on: December 12, 2013, 01:56:32 AM »
Situational combat has nothing to do with power levels.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2105 on: December 12, 2013, 01:58:57 AM »
And in situational combat, such as a sneak attack, Satoshi doesn't have either time to react or defend. If he's not strong enough to defeat Rider one on one even with regeneration, I doubt he can defeat a being made for combat with a style of fighting and attack both alien and unexpected to him.

So basically, he should be fucked when it comes to sneak attacks, like everyone is.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2106 on: December 12, 2013, 02:03:59 AM »
Stop claiming things incorrectly Arch. Further you don't understand the character if you think that he can't defend or that even if he couldn't he would die from a sneak attack. Besides that Raul can't use flight to enact a sneak attack.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2107 on: December 12, 2013, 02:06:43 AM »
Stop claiming things incorrectly Arch. Further you don't understand the character if you think that he can't defend or that even if he couldn't he would die from a sneak attack. Besides that Raul can't use flight to enact a sneak attack.
Why not? He could glide, or just drop to the ground, and shank a bitch, and then dismember him limb from limb like he does with other Angels, so they can't regenerate either.

And it's flat out impossible to defend against something you can't see coming, and if you forgot, Raul is an assassin. He's a master of attacking when you can't see it coming.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2108 on: December 12, 2013, 02:16:27 AM »
immunity to the elements

the source of this is pacts with the elemental spirits. In short the air tells him you're coming.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2109 on: December 12, 2013, 02:18:43 AM »
Magos, the rules of the RP are clear, you do not get to kill people's characters without their permission, and stuff like this is why.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2110 on: December 12, 2013, 02:19:39 AM »
immunity to the elements

the source of this is pacts with the elemental spirits. In short the air tells him you're coming.
That still doesn't... how... what?

That's blatantly OP. That's so fucking OP. How doesn't he even know about Raul then? Why doesn't he point him out? Why hasn't he?

Oh, and there's still the fact that he has no experience with anything like Raul ever. Plus there's the exploits and embeds. Enjoy reality bitchslapping you.


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For that matter, that isn't how IMMUNITY TO THE ELEMENTS SHOULD FUCKING WORK. IMMUNITY MEANS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T EFFECT HIM, NOT HELP HIM.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2111 on: December 12, 2013, 02:31:19 AM »
So, after a long time deliberating, I decided I'll be joining this crazy ride as well.

Posted my profile for this: anti-magic killer robot from far in the future sanjou!
Please review. :3 Be gentle...

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2112 on: December 12, 2013, 02:35:22 AM »
Immunity has a source, this is Satoshi's source. End of story.

welcome to it Kaiza

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2113 on: December 12, 2013, 02:40:04 AM »
Not bad KAIZA. Hitchhike with Old Man Henderson, or whatever. He's more than willing as long as you're alright with Rupert.

Except lantz... that doesn't make sense. At all. Then it isn't 'Immunity from the Elements.' It'd be 'Alliance with the Elements'. There's a total difference here, and that power is also so blatantly overpowered it isn't even funny.

For that matter, very little of Satoshi's abilities are even defined at all. Additionally, how is it that Satoshi can be defeated by Rider in combat while having... what was it, several thousand years of experience plus their raw stat difference? Unless Rider brings out Pegasus, which is seriously destructive when used with Bellerophon, I don't see how he'd lose.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2114 on: December 12, 2013, 05:41:15 AM »
As I said before Arch, numbers do not matter. Power levels are pointless