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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2385 on: December 15, 2013, 05:13:58 PM »
Mike, first off all that is bullshit stating I was sabotaging the game for Lantz.  It seems you still have some issues towards me.  If anything, I've been taking Lantz's side for most of the damned game even though he's done some really stupid shit.

Like tracing a car through singing.  That should have been fucking impossible.  However I let it slide.  Hell, I even gave alternatives in how to explain its existence that were plausible but  they were shut the fuck down.  So I let it slide to be nice.

Then I took his side with the Connor and Law conflict, making sure that Law didn't blast him in the fucking face with the shot gun.  So don't you dare say Mike that I'm sabotaging Lantz's game.   I've done a lot of shit for you, but I've gotten nothing in return so stop please spreading bullshit about me or you will see what I'm like when I'm not being nice.

OK, sorry about that. I've sent you a PM.

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Now I do have issues with Lantz "planning things" ahead of time.  This is an RP- not a fanfic.  It has a hard lesson that I had to learn once, but I'm glad I did.  The only one who should be planning something in advance is me as a GM or someone I'm letting GM a campaign within the game.  And to do that, all they have to do is ask me for permission.  Lantz already had everything planned and didn't ask if it was really okay in the beginning; however as a GM I was being nice and letting it slide.

Well, there's nothing wrong with planning out how your characters will act but, yeah, you can't assume that they will get the response they want, or that your plans won't get screwed-up.

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So when I'm not on, please listen to Alice.  She's the admin here.  If she makes a decision I'm going to go with it.  Ultimately, at the end of the day, it's her Forum.  She gets the last word.

Well, she's not the only admin, and being the admin doesn't grant you the automatic right to the last word in an argument.

But, yeah, people should listen to her. I appointed these people as admins for a reason....

Oh geez, is the pace really that slow here?

It's not so much that it's slow as it is that we have had a lot of stuff going on. Although, also, we are on different timezones, so sometimes we might only get a post a day done, and sometimes people are busy so it's a bit less.

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Er, anyway, on the time travel thing: It's also possible that time travelers are 'outside' of time in the sense that changes don't affect them. So they could kill their own grandfather and still exist, even if they don't have an origin point in the timeline. Because the universe is not so small and flimsy that the misplacement of a single human being means anything to it.

But I admit that probably wouldn't be the case in any potential time-travel experiments based on the laws of physics rather than 'lol magic'.

@Elf: HAIL THE LAW.

In terms of physics the only really plausible explanation (especially in a universe with multiple dimensions being canonical) is to say that changing the timeline creates an alterate dimension. So, in other words, the moment Ryoko showed up the Nexus we're in diverged from the Nexus her parents were from.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2386 on: December 15, 2013, 05:17:07 PM »
And I read and responded to the PM.

Hey, any chance I can use Judge Dredd I'm going to take it.  God I want a sequel to that movie so fucking bad.  It was perfect.

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« Reply #2387 on: December 15, 2013, 05:21:10 PM »
And I read and responded to the PM.

Hey, any chance I can use Judge Dredd I'm going to take it.  God I want a sequel to that movie so fucking bad.  It was perfect.

I'm shocked you haven't included Dredd as a PC yet.

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« Reply #2388 on: December 15, 2013, 05:24:25 PM »
God, he would get on so badly with my characters, especially Rider....

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« Reply #2389 on: December 15, 2013, 05:28:13 PM »
Whelp, time to get the hell out of dodge. FOUR MINUTES AGO GO.

Now time for Raul to down a gallon of hotsauce and act totally out of character by fleeing and not fighting against the trap, but thems the shakes.

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« Reply #2390 on: December 15, 2013, 05:29:21 PM »
Well, yeah, unfortunately it does seem like there is no way for him and Toshi to fight that won't result in them both dying....

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« Reply #2391 on: December 15, 2013, 05:32:52 PM »
I'll just say this if guys want my characters to be less outlandish then it is simple. Include my characters instead of avoiding them, yeah being blown up to theatrical proportion isn't ideal but when you guys actively avoid my characters I don't exactly have a choice but to propel my characters forward which leads to unnecessary planning.

did everyone understand me? I ask because you all keep saying my communication sucks. So seriously please do sound off if you understand what I'm asking for.

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« Reply #2392 on: December 15, 2013, 05:36:03 PM »
I'm shocked you haven't included Dredd as a PC yet.

Oh god, it would be beautiful . . . Please don't tempt me.

However, while watching a guy painfully frown and blow up people while enforcing the law is fun, playing it not so much.

But . . . "Indecent exposure.  Four months.  Isocube."

Thank you Magos.
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« Reply #2393 on: December 15, 2013, 05:38:27 PM »
I'll just say this if guys want my characters to be less outlandish then it is simple. Include my characters instead of avoiding them, yeah being blown up to theatrical proportion isn't ideal but when you guys actively avoid my characters I don't exactly have a choice but to propel my characters forward which leads to unnecessary planning.

did everyone understand me? I ask because you all keep saying my communication sucks. So seriously please do sound off if you understand what I'm asking for.

Avoiding your characters is how people demonstrate they wish to disengage from interacting with them. I personally think the problem there is you not respecting that they don't want to interact with them, rather than their refusal to engage.

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« Reply #2394 on: December 15, 2013, 05:41:02 PM »
I'll just say this if guys want my characters to be less outlandish then it is simple. Include my characters instead of avoiding them, yeah being blown up to theatrical proportion isn't ideal but when you guys actively avoid my characters I don't exactly have a choice but to propel my characters forward which leads to unnecessary planning.

I don't think people are deliberately avoiding you in general, but your characters do share your tendancy to miscommunicate a lot, which makes the other characters wary of them ICly. For example the stuff with Sakura getting mad at Rin, where you completely misunderstood what Rin was saying and acting like she was claiming Toshi was worse than Gil. Similarly, Taiga was quite mean to Kiyoshi when they first met, and not every character is going to just overlook that.

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« Reply #2395 on: December 15, 2013, 05:42:24 PM »
Ok Aiden, stalemate the problem that'll work really well.

my characters aren't lamp posts, I want to play the damn game and I'm trying to take elf's point to heart and explain the bloody issue so we can avoid it.

and no Arch trapping my characters for days given the time progression is a bit unfair here.

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« Reply #2396 on: December 15, 2013, 05:44:20 PM »
I'll just say this if guys want my characters to be less outlandish then it is simple. Include my characters instead of avoiding them, yeah being blown up to theatrical proportion isn't ideal but when you guys actively avoid my characters I don't exactly have a choice but to propel my characters forward which leads to unnecessary planning.

did everyone understand me? I ask because you all keep saying my communication sucks. So seriously please do sound off if you understand what I'm asking for.

Avoiding your characters is how people demonstrate they wish to disengage from interacting with them. I personally think the problem there is you not respecting that they don't want to interact with them, rather than their refusal to engage.

I think you're slightly missing the point here, though. Lantz is not saying they don't have the right to not interact with him, he's saying that, if no-one but me interacts with him it's difficult for him to really get any character development going unless he forces it, and it's difficult for him to get involved in any events unless he plans them out.

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2397 on: December 15, 2013, 05:44:27 PM »
Mike, pencils and erasers, characters aren't perfect, it's part of their character. And Sakura flat out said that she wanted an opportunity to straighten things out

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« Reply #2398 on: December 15, 2013, 05:45:55 PM »
I'll just say this if guys want my characters to be less outlandish then it is simple. Include my characters instead of avoiding them, yeah being blown up to theatrical proportion isn't ideal but when you guys actively avoid my characters I don't exactly have a choice but to propel my characters forward which leads to unnecessary planning.

did everyone understand me? I ask because you all keep saying my communication sucks. So seriously please do sound off if you understand what I'm asking for.

Avoiding your characters is how people demonstrate they wish to disengage from interacting with them. I personally think the problem there is you not respecting that they don't want to interact with them, rather than their refusal to engage.

I think you're slightly missing the point here, though. Lantz is not saying they don't have the right to not interact with him, he's saying that, if no-one but me interacts with him it's difficult for him to really get any character development going unless he forces it, and it's difficult for him to get involved in any events unless he plans them out.

That doesn't change the point that people don't have an obligation to interact with his characters if they don't want to.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #2399 on: December 15, 2013, 05:48:08 PM »
Especially when his characters frankly, act like assholes.