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[Bloble]

Arch, I think the best/worst possible thing Jack can do in his situation is to just look at Kiyoshi and say: "No."

Because I wanna see where Mike's going with this.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, if he looks like he's going to harm Rin then Kiyoshi will attack him. If not then he's unlikely to do much, and it will likely be up to Rin to make the next move.

[YOLF]

I don't think Forest will appreciate her kitchen getting blown up by Rin's gems at this point. Or butchered by shadow blades.

Maybe she'll be feeling magnanimous after the threesome though.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Jack just made a good point here -

Kiyoshi shouldn't think of this Rin as family, or "Sakura" or "Taiga."

They're not from his universe. They should be subtly wrong. Scars in the wrong places, expressions and actions and body language that he shouldn't recognize, especially with Rin, as he KNOWS HER. She isn't acting, speaking, or even communicating like his Rin.

Think the invasion of the pod people, that's how Kiyoshi should be feeling about her.

[Elf]

Poor Archer would be forced to repair the kitchen again.

Sadness.

Hey Magos, why do you think Lancer's not acknowledging Connor as his son?  He killed his son.

[YOLF]

Well Magos, I'm guessing they have enough in common that a kid can accept them as the same person, and Rin, as a user of the Second Magic, is probably used to this kind of stuff well enough to also accept him as family.

Besides, you heard the kid when he was pouring his heart out earlier. He's lonely. So even if they're not his family, all these alternates of people he knows are the only kind of family that he knows in Nexus City.

[lantzblades]

Your vampire is a sociopath as best as I can figure Arch, even if your argument held water (and it really doesn't) they'd still unite against your character because he's threatening them.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

He isn't a sociopath actually. He's not that far gone as a vampire yet. Jack is in a rather precarious point in his requiem. He's either going to fall hard or stabilize, and I'm not entirely sure which yet.

And my argument does hold water. Look up basic fucking human behavioral shit.

[lantzblades]

Neither magi in general nor Shirou's kids could ever be considered normal Arch, so basic human anything would rarely apply.

[Alice]

OK, finally in here to look at stuff, got too preoccupied to answer things.

For Tom, the answer is likely closer to the games, probably with a touch of hybrid in there. I basically took the route the various adaptations did and made a silghtly AU-ish thing that's still (hopefully) true enough to canon while taking it's own spin on things.

YOLF was definitely right with the reference he picked up there, though. Tom's predecessor was a direct reference to the the Mewtwo created on Cinnabar Island that's been frequenting caves since Red/Green/Blue. I decided to stay true to the games on that front at least. But yup, hopefully that explains it enough for now.

...Speaking of which, I probably need to update Tom's sheet now that the secret's out. ^_^"

And yeah, Archer's going to be more than a bit annoyed if he has to fix the kitchen again, so they'd better cool their jets in there. ...Especially since Hakuno's sleeping against his shoulder at this point. I'm assuming Ruu is just chilling in there watching TV still (Daiki come back to us ;_;).

And as for Kiyoshi's reactions to all the AU people... Admittedly I find it a bit odd too. Ryoko was pretty friendly to him, sure, but Cool Big Sis is one of her schticks. Plus he may actually exist in her world, I'm not actually for sure yet. Plus her circumstances are a bit different, but I'm still working out how that'll work, so that's not important for now. 

...Regardless though, poor Lancer, he's going to have to help sort out yet another mess. Plus he's not going to want the kitchen destroyed either, since not is it only his Landlady's kitchen, but the tea he's brewing for Mille to make her feel better is also in there. So with that, combined with everything else he's had to smooth over at this point, I suspect he's getting more than a bit grouchy with it at this point.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Do you really want to try to get into a battle of wills with Jack? Do you really want him to let the beast take over to resist this urge?

Because he'll do it. His willpower is strong enough that he'll ride the wave on that thing and tear apart whoever tried to put shackles onto him.

[lantzblades]

Jack ain't at servant level Arch.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Jack ain't at servant level Arch.

No, but this isn't something I'm letting you do without a fight.

Going berserk is a reaction that can without a doubt shake this control.

Or he could give into the Red Surrender and let the beast take some things over for him.

[lantzblades]

Your resistance isn't high enough, that's the way it goes. It's a fairly benign command too.

you want to flip your kill switch then fine dude. I don't see the point but he's your character.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

Your resistance isn't high enough, that's the way it goes. It's a fairly benign command too.

you want to flip your kill switch then fine dude. I don't see the point but he's your character.

He's got the willpower to resist. He's got that stat maxed out and with his blood potency, C+ MR really only applies to physical magic effects, most of which he can just shrug off by being that damn fucking tough.

Mentally, he's more than able to ignore a command like that. He's even got a merit that applies to that for crying out loud.


Of course, he could just flip out and Ride the Wave, but that's all up to whether or not you're enough of a prick to keep forcing the issue when satistically he could just ignore this.