Tsukumihara diaries (discussion)

[lantzblades]

But that is not a superhero, not a hero of justice. It defies who the character started as and wants to become, it would make him comparatively selfish and really being the lesser of the two male leads when the other guy is a psychological train wreck is not a good position for shirou.

[Cherry Lover]

I don't see how wanting to protect Sakura makes him "lesser". He's still a fundamentally good guy.

[lantzblades]

Being selfish makes him lesser and yes a hero who chooses one over the many is selfish

[Cherry Lover]

Refusing to murder innocent people in cold blood is not "selfish".

But, fine, I don't particularly mind it not being HF Shirou as long as that doesn't imply Sakura gets ignored or worse....

[lantzblades]

Don't apply context of hf, a hero who chooses the one over the many is selfish. Heroes are better off detached

[Cherry Lover]

Not really.

How many heroes do you know who don't have people they love more than others? Superman does, Spiderman does. It's just normal, because it makes them actual people.

[lantzblades]

They however do not protect those People first and foremost above the innocent masses

[Xamusel]

That would be discounting the whole Brand New Day thing for Spiderman (which I think you guys would not care for).

[Cherry Lover]

They however do not protect those People first and foremost above the innocent masses

That's not true at all. Do you not remember Superman going to the point of reversing time to bring Lois Lane back in the first film?

They might protect everyone, but they do tend to put their loved ones first.

[Cherry Lover]

OK, well, shouldn't we get back to discussing the actual idea...?

[lantzblades]

I think the lack of unified out look on heroes might make the setup be shaky here

[Cherry Lover]

Why?

It's not like we need to agree exactly on how a hero should act to write a story. Shirou is not perfect, and nor is anyone else....

[lantzblades]

When said hero is the main character I think we do, as for Shirou I really think ubw as a guide line works best, not too naive and not a extremely focused obsessive.

[Cherry Lover]

For this purpose that probably does make sense, yes, although it shouldn't imply the pairing, or that Sakura gets her UBW fate....

[lantzblades]

Your opinion of her fate there you mean and no it should be rather obvious I'm not a ShirouXRin fan so that pairing is very unlikely.