Tsukumihara diaries (discussion)

[Cherry Lover]

Your opinion of her fate there you mean

Her fate in UBW is left unresolved. She might get saved later, but the story neither saves her nor does anything to increase her chances of being saved at a later date.

and no it should be rather obvious I'm not a ShirouXRin fan so that pairing is very unlikely.

Yeah, that makes sense.

[lantzblades]

First up, Are Shirou and Shiki friends?

[Cherry Lover]

Well, it's hard for me to answer that, since I don't know much about Shiki. How would it affect things if they were?

[lantzblades]

If they are friends I imagine that they would team up much sooner into the work thus changing events much more than they would if not so

[Cherry Lover]

Hmm, well, having them be friends could lead to interesting stuff with regards to Sakura, since Shiki would presumably be able to notice the worms. Also, he can most likely kill Zouken without killing her. That would give us a way to save Sakura and introduce her into the story more without having to go down the HF route and make everything darker.

[lantzblades]

Shiki can kill the universe  so zouken is comparatively a bitch.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, it's not so much whether he can kill Zouken as whether he can kill Zouken without harming Sakura....

[lantzblades]

He just has to cut Zouken's line and not Sakura's

[Cherry Lover]

He just has to cut Zouken's line and not Sakura's

Well, he'd probably need to stab the dot but, yeah.

The issue is whether stabbing a dot inside Sakura's heart will harm Sakura, even if it's not her dot.

[lantzblades]

As long as it doesn't connect to her dots or lines it's fine. Ryougi killed an appendix infection or something in the movie without hurting the girl

[Cherry Lover]

Ah, OK, then that could be a good way of changing things so Sakura can play more of a role without needing to go through HF. Once Shirou finds out the truth, Shiki can deal with Zouken nice and quickly, and then she can be involved without going through all the mess of HF.

[lantzblades]

Avoiding HF like conditions where there are little pockets of sense scattered throughout a minefield of stupid is always good I think.

[Cherry Lover]

Well, I don't dislike HF, but I'm quite OK with avoiding that path as long as Sakura is saved otherwise, and isn't ignored in general. I'm not overly fond of grimdark stuff in general.

[lantzblades]

I just dislike the lack of logic and communication present in the route.

[Cherry Lover]

Sure. It doesn't matter anyway since we have no need to go down that path (although that certainly does not mean Sakura should be left out).