Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion

[SINIB]

Does mordred have Magic resistance hidden in her unlimited skill works?

[Kat]

SUPERNATURAL TOLERANCE - Supernatural (Mordred's Wyrd is high enough for her to be accepted into Entitlement, offers her some resistance against all manner of supernatural powers)

Not exactly Magic Resistance, though.

[Panda]

Henderson has a damaged page of the Necronomicon, which will be trying to regenerate by draining any magical energy tainted by an outside source (i.e. Faust's demonic-pact for knowledge renders his entire spell repertoire vulnerable to this effect.). So all of Faust's magic is going to be sundered as the Necronomicon regenerates itself.

[Kat]

Isn't that overpowered?

[Kaze]

Name: Tohsaka Raida (real name Medusa), usually goes by “Rider”

Physical Attributes

Strength: Superhuman
Agility: Legendary
Constitution: Supernatural

As YOLF (who came up with the current stat system) has stated in the skype chat, Legendary is, at its very lowest, roughly equivalent to rank A+ and above. As such Rider can't have Legendary agility, she would rather be on the high end of Superhuman.

[Kat]

Yes, and there are certainly faster Servants than Medusa. Like Achilles.

[Cherry Lover]

Name: Tohsaka Raida (real name Medusa), usually goes by “Rider”

Physical Attributes

Strength: Superhuman
Agility: Legendary
Constitution: Supernatural

As YOLF (who came up with the current stat system) has stated in the skype chat, Legendary is, at its very lowest, roughly equivalent to rank A+ and above. As such Rider can't have Legendary agility, she would rather be on the high end of Superhuman.

YOLF said that legendary was rank A. And, rank A+ doesn't really even exist.

Plus, if he has an issue with my damn sheet, he should talk to me about it, not discuss it on some dumb chat you won't let me into.

[YOLF]

I said "about A~A+" before, which is why I did not speak up in here and was going to leave scrutiny of that to Elf and Names.

But A+ is actually a servant attribute rank. Multiple servants posses one. Hercules, Lancelot, Koujiro, Medea, Arturia, Gilgamesh...

[Kaze]

YOLF didn't make a comment on your sheet in the chat (to my knowledge), I'm simply repeating what he told others before.

Maybe I'm wrong, but there's no need to be defensive. I have no issue with you, I was just trying to point out something I thought was inaccurate.

[Cherry Lover]

I said "about A~A+" before, which is why I did not speak up in here and was going to leave scrutiny of that to Elf and Names.

But A+ is actually a servant attribute rank. Multiple servants posses one. Hercules, Lancelot, Koujiro, Medea, Arturia, Gilgamesh...

I would say A should be "Legendary". There should be some distinction between A and C, that's a big difference, and I don't think we're going to have many characters in the Legendary range on that basis.

[Kaze]

Sniped. Looks like A can count as legendary.

[Kaze]

The point of the vague system is to prevent rpg mechanics fagging, and simply signify when one character has a huge advantage over another.

[Cherry Lover]

The point of the vague system is to prevent rpg mechanics fagging, and simply signify when one character has a huge advantage over another.

Yeah, but in FSN terms, a servant of rank A is a long way above one with rank C. And, no servant really has a "huge advantage" over the others, even a rank D servant is not an order of magnitude worse than a rank A or A+ one.

[YOLF]

But they absolutely do, it's just that Nasu's ranks are absolute bullshit because the battles in FSN and FZ are decided narratively and not based on math or chance and there are a lot of outside factors that make them not certain indicators of who wins.

And sorry to disappoint you, but the difference from D to A is absolutely significant. A rank Strength is theoretically 5/2 times the D rank Strength.

Also, Mike, you can't say that A rank is long above C rank but a D rank is not an order of magnitude worse than an A or A+ rank. You're contradicting yourself.

[Knick]

Mike, just make it superhuman and move on.

No point arguing about it man.