Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion

[Lycodrake]

Finally escaped, for a moment, the insanity that is end-of-the-semester business and posted. I've been working (with a bit of procrastination thrown in, if I'm entirely honest) on essays and projects, which is why I haven't been on skype.

[YOLF]

Hey Milbunk?

I suggest you post Kayneth soon or I'm giving Knick and Umbra fair game in my authority as a GM. It's been over 48 hours and I have been told you are just holding up the RP now.

[Knick]

Yo Mil, because of this I am warning you now. You got until tomorrow night until I just post.

You have been warned. Thanks Yolf.

[YOLF]

So Elf promoted me. I am now allowed to overrule her in times of great need or when she gives no fucks. And as Yolf Master Overruler GM effective, I declare:

Milbunk, have your friend post his secret sheet normally to go through the approval process and get to bloody posting because you're not denying the spine stab.

P.S.: Pardons for not posting myself, I've been feeling really sick all day. I will attempt to post Tar tomorrow.

[Cherry Lover]

Frankly, this seems like a bit of a dick move to me. Mil agreed this with Elf beforehand, and set something up on that basis. It's completely fucking ridiculous to then turn around to him and say "no, you can't do it, you have to deal with your character being fucking crippled because Knick is an ass and can't accept people not doing things his way".

[Kat]

Didn't he agree to anything short of death?

[Elf]

From what I've heard, Mil agreed to pretty much anything other than perma death, with the stipulation that "If bitten, he bites back."  Or something along the lines of that.

I also appointed YOLF because if work keeps on like it has been (working 52 hours in six days last week whoo!) then I just wanna come home, relax and RP.   Plus I trust YOLF in spades too.

[Cherry Lover]

Didn't he agree to anything short of death?

Yeah, but I think he did so because he knew he could summon a servant if it went too far. Which, admittedly, is a little cheap on Mil's part but, even so, he made his decision on that basis, so changing it seems a bit shitty.

[Milbunk]

I'm not a mod but I have to veto this situation and call for an unfair decision here.

This plan has been going on for a while now and had been approved mostly by both YOLF and Elf, they allowed me to go ahead with a summons, they even checked my sheet but when the time came to actually do it then this happens.

I have to say I'm feeling a bit betrayed right now, and it feels a lot like favoritism towards Knick.

[YOLF]

I never approved the plan - I was simply going along with it because Elf did. In fact, I kind of made my dislike for the secrecy of it that added nothing to the RP known.

You can still evoke the no-kill rule at your leisure, but you also said you'd be fine with anything short of death but would bite back. My ruling literally changes nothing, since I already went over the sheet in private and all that has to be done is posting it so I can approve it as per normal.

[Cherry Lover]

I never approved the plan - I was simply going along with it because Elf did. In fact, I kind of made my dislike for the secrecy of it that added nothing to the RP known.

No, but Elf did approve it, and ultimately it is Elf's RP. Her standing aside and saying "YOLF can now over-rule me" does not excuse going back on that agreement.

You can still evoke the no-kill rule at your leisure, but you also said you'd be fine with anything short of death but would bite back. My ruling literally changes nothing, since I already went over the sheet in private and all that has to be done is posting it so I can approve it as per normal.

Except that you've denied him the right to respond to Knick's actions, and have insisted that he allow those actions to occur as Knick dictated, despite the rules very explicitly stating that that is not allowed.

[Milbunk]

Thank you Mike, he's pretty much said what my concerns were.

The only main reason I even started working with you YOLF was because of Elf's busy nature and I was trying to make sure that things didn't take forever, even after she talked to me about the concern she was still fine with it so I acted as such in the RP.

It's not the fact that I'm being attacked, it's the fact that you have for some reason decided to deny me the chance to respond to this attack, I am fairly certain that is against the rules of the RP, isn't it?

[YOLF]

I thought it was a senseless plan to begin with, and was simply respecting Elf's wishes on it. Given the authority to overrule it, I am going to do so because I think it adds nothing to the RP and I am not going to open exceptions on how to treat players for no good reason. The weight of the agreement is not on me - and if Elf did not want me to go back on it, she would've said so when she gave me this position yesterday and I mentioned my intent.

Oh, and if Kayneth can respond to someone who is exponentially more agile than him and was already tossing him around in the context of the situation zooming behind him to stab his spine, be my guest. But if he can't realistically do so, then all I have to say is deal with it. If you have no chance to respond to something another character does to begin with, then no rule is being violated.

[Milbunk]

You do realize that this is not a real summon right? I thought those were impossible in Nexus, this is a Servant being brought into the Nexus just after a summoning and then confusing Kayneth as the Master and he accepts.

And yes I would reasonably say that a Servant dropping in like that is reasonable grounds that allow for a reaction.

And just overruling something that was in planning for such a long time is a pretty jerk move. It really does reek of just favoring the other side.

[Cherry Lover]

I thought it was a senseless plan to begin with, and was simply respecting Elf's wishes on it. Given the authority to overrule it, I am going to do so because I think it adds nothing to the RP and I am not going to open exceptions on how to treat players for no good reason. The weight of the agreement is not on me - and if Elf did not want me to go back on it, she would've said so when she gave me this position yesterday and I mentioned my intent.

OK, then that's kind-of Elf's fault. Doesn't make it any more OK....