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Cherry Lover

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7230 on: May 21, 2014, 02:01:33 AM »
Quote from: Cool Kat on May 21, 2014, 01:59:41 AM
Wrong, Mike. He was pretty idealistic before the soul rot.

Hey, I'm not the one who said he had no morality....

Honestly, I don't know what bishie Zouken was really like, we don't know an awful lot about him.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7231 on: May 21, 2014, 02:02:10 AM »
Quote from: Cool Kat on May 21, 2014, 01:59:41 AM
Wrong, Mike. He was pretty idealistic before the soul rot.

This. I mean he wanted to wish for a fucking Utopia.

My Zouken has lost that idealism, and is much more cynical and jaded then super young Zouken. But still not as bad a soul rot Zouken.

But Sakura though. Zouken really made her a fantastic magus. Mindset and all. 

Poor Shirou.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7232 on: May 21, 2014, 04:02:17 AM »
New Cross Effects stuff should be up by Friday!

Stay tuned.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7233 on: May 21, 2014, 10:05:42 AM »
Yay!
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7234 on: May 21, 2014, 10:36:17 AM »
Prepare your beta anuses for the amount of alphaness that is to invade CE 2.0

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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7235 on: May 21, 2014, 11:55:35 AM »
Quote from: Knick on May 21, 2014, 02:02:10 AM
But Sakura though. Zouken really made her a fantastic magus. Mindset and all. 

Poor Shirou.

Ah, OK, I see....

Then I assume he's going to find my Sakura (who is about as far from a Magus mindset as you can get) really weird, I assume....
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7236 on: May 21, 2014, 04:16:09 PM »
Weird? Maybe. Pathetic? Probably. Bishie Zouken's Sakura probably wrecks shit. Post HF Sakura has a lot of prana but lacks skill compared to one trained to be that actual heir. Although he would probably ask think old Zouken is pathetic too.
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« Reply #7237 on: May 21, 2014, 04:20:47 PM »
Quote from: Umbra of Chaos on May 21, 2014, 04:16:09 PM
Weird? Maybe. Pathetic? Probably. Bishie Zouken's Sakura probably wrecks shit. Post HF Sakura has a lot of prana but lacks skill compared to one trained to be that actual heir. Although he would probably ask think old Zouken is pathetic too.

Well, Sakura also has her very own heroic spirit who obeys (mostly...) and protects her entirely of her own free will, that has to count as a somewhat impressive feat (particularly since he doesn't know how she got the power to support Rider).
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« Reply #7238 on: May 21, 2014, 04:42:09 PM »
Medusa technically isnt a Heroic Spirit, she's an Anti-Hero. Also no, she doesn't have that, she has a Servant. Anyone who had their very own Heroic Spirit could conquer the world.

Also it's really not Sakura's own doing that she has it. Without Zouken setting everything up and finding her a catalyst, she would never summon Medusa.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7239 on: May 21, 2014, 04:49:44 PM »
Quote from: Brahmastra on May 21, 2014, 04:42:09 PM
Medusa technically isnt a Heroic Spirit, she's an Anti-Hero. Also no, she doesn't have that, she has a Servant. Anyone who had their very own Heroic Spirit could conquer the world.

Well, OK, but it's still pretty impressive to get someone who could crush you like an ant to devote their existence to protecting you (and without even trying, in Sakura's case)....

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Also it's really not Sakura's own doing that she has it.

The original summoning, yes, but Rider remaining for the subsequent 30 years is entirely Sakura's doing. Not only does Rider remain willingly, but Sakura has the prana to supply her.

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Without Zouken setting everything up and finding her a catalyst, she would never summon Medusa.

Only because of a lack of desire. Sakura was fully capable of summoning a servant, she just had no interest in it. And, Rin never found a catalyst either (at least not intentionally), so....

Plus, Zouken doesn't know any of this. All he would know is that Sakura is there and has a servant she can support after the war.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7240 on: May 21, 2014, 04:59:37 PM »
Quote from: Cherry Lover on May 21, 2014, 04:20:47 PM

Well, Sakura also has her very own heroic spirit who obeys (mostly...) and protects her entirely of her own free will, that has to count as a somewhat impressive feat (particularly since he doesn't know how she got the power to support Rider).

Just tell him she reproduced a bastard version of the Third in the Grail War and he will ask to become her disciple. Especially considering how he feels towards the user of the Third.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7241 on: May 21, 2014, 05:06:53 PM »
I think it's probably better not to give him ideas....
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« Reply #7242 on: May 21, 2014, 05:15:40 PM »
Medusa isn't particularly more loyal than anyone else. She just went "This chick is kinda like me, better not let her become a world-eating super monster."

And even Ryuunosuke can summon a Servant so there's nothing to be excited about there.
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7243 on: May 21, 2014, 05:18:52 PM »
Quote from: Brahmastra on May 21, 2014, 05:15:40 PM
Medusa isn't particularly more loyal than anyone else. She just went "This chick is kinda like me, better not let her become a world-eating super monster."

I don't think so somehow. If her only worry was preventing Sakura becoming a monster, then why did she protect Sakura even as she became one, and then fight to save rather than to kill her? Further, in HA she says something along the lines of "I would happily kill the whole city to save Sakura". That is pretty loyal....
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Re: Cross Effects - Sign Up, Discussion Page
« Reply #7244 on: May 21, 2014, 05:27:27 PM »
Quote from: Cherry Lover on May 21, 2014, 05:18:52 PM

I don't think so somehow. If her only worry was preventing Sakura becoming a monster, then why did she protect Sakura even as she became one, and then fight to save rather than to kill her? Further, in HA she says something along the lines of "I would happily kill the whole city to save Sakura". That is pretty loyal....

No that's not loyal, that's sociopathic.
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