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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1155 on: May 26, 2015, 11:17:34 PM »
Crap. Panda had messaged me about posting Than'Sanel ASAP so Adjutor wasn't just standing around for too long, but I've been reading fanfic stuff and having Skype problems.
Damn. Hope I didn't wind up discouraging Panda even further.
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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1156 on: May 28, 2015, 11:00:44 PM »
I'm waiting for Magos or Elf to post in Mordred/Abigail/Emily/Law situation and 48 hours has passed. I'll likely skip if I don't see any update by late Friday, especially as I want to move on with Mordred.

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1157 on: May 30, 2015, 02:26:35 PM »
Just got my laptop back from being cleaned up. Seems I'll need to save up money from a job I'm getting to get a new one.
Which means very little good for me posting here - in the long run. That and Skype isn't doing that great either. :/
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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1158 on: May 31, 2015, 05:26:47 AM »
TheUnknownHero, your latest Shirou post is frankly, completely and unabashedly terrible. There are multiple egregious grammar and typographical errors, none of Shirou’s actions make any sense in the slightest, you spastically switched between past and present tense in the middle of sentences, and it’s glaringly evident that you really didn’t read most, if any, of the preceding posts with any level of care.

Quote from: Shirou
The mysterious helmet informs the boy of the obviously that this place was indeed Matou Sakura's house but also told him a little bit about the nature of the Nexus. Just as helmet was about to reveal it's name to Shirou it paused for a second. The boy looked at the helmet confused as to what it was thinking when it finally responded by asking Rider what was happening. Rider responded by saying she wasn't sure but that she was going to check it out. Since it looked like Sakura could be in danger the boy's concern quickly shifted to her.

This entire paragraph is of exceptionally poor quality, but the first sentence in particular is notably worse. First off, the word obviously is an adverb, meaning it modifies another word and as a result, can not be used on its own as you have here. However, even ignoring this, the sentence has other big issues as well. It’s a massive run on sentence, and would greatly benefit from the addition of strategically placed commas and/or splitting it into multiple sentences altogether.

In this paragraph, Shirou is acting out of character in the extreme. Sakura was making an absurd amount of noise, which you’d have known had you read the relevant post of hers.
Quote from: Sakura
Sakura dropped what she was doing and ran down the stairs with a rage and terror akin to that of a cornered animal. [...] “No!” She yelled. [...] as she tore down the stairs to the hidden basement. [...] she therefore darted around the corner and into the dark penetralia of the house without a second thought.
“Who!” She yelled at the intruder with acrimony, true malice filling her entire being.
Any of these should have been enough to warrent a serious reaction on its own, let alone all of them combined. However instead of reacting, or even noticing such clearly abnormal behavior from Sakura, Shirou didn’t even make note of anything out of the ordinary until Vanguard reacted and Rider left to go investigate. He was actually confused as to why Vanguard had stopped talking instead!



Quote from: Shirou
The boy then rushes toward the woman he loves to check if she is okay. As he approaches her, he noticed Rider and Rin were with her along with someone who looked similar to him.

"Hey is everyone alright, I take it that person who looks like me is who all the commotion is about."

The boy was rather ammused by the idea that he'd meet two versions of himself in this crazy world in one day.

FIrst off, they’re in the former wormpit, which has been since converted to a basement, and is also nearly pitch black inside, which makes me question how in the world he managed to see anything but maybe Rin or Rider. Sakura didn’t realize it was Mike’s Shirou who had been captured until she was right up next to him, and Rin reinforced her eyes. You should have known both of these facts had you even skimmed any of the relevant posts, which is important when you write a response.

And again, I question why Shirou is so calm about meeting another version of himself. I had issues with this back when he met Kaze’s Shirou as well, and now regret not bringing them up then. I think people would generally be surprised at meeting an alternate version of themselves, and most definitely wouldn’t expect a response such as this, where he just totally brushes over this entire situation.

More importantly, however, this is really just part of a bigger problem with your role-playing of Shirou. He’s been incredibly passive, numb even, in just about every single situation he’s been in so far. Nothing seems to faze him excluding that one time he made an off comment about Angra Mainyu while Sakura was trying to take Kaze’s Shirou into protective custody. Every other time, he’s taken all the strangeness in stride without even a hint of faltering.

Finally, and this is omnipresent in the post, you switched between the present and past tenses at random, which is something that should not be done in any circumstances. It makes it extremely difficult to read and makes everything extremely confusing. Even switching between sentences is considered very poor form, and you’ve neurotically gone back and forth almost every other verb.

If you’re going to participate in this RP, you should at least put in the minimum amount of effort into your posts. If you can’t even be bothered to read the relevant posts, you’re really just wasting both your and everyone involved’s time. I think you need to completely rewrite the post from the ground up, this time after you read the posts leading up to it and making Shirou act significantly more in character. As it is now, it's simply just absolutely worthless, and actively harms the role-playing experience of everyone else involved.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2015, 07:27:10 AM by Sinib »

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1159 on: May 31, 2015, 06:29:11 AM »
Sinib's post above has a lot of pertinent detail put into it, so I recommend giving it some careful consideration, UnknownHero.

In other news, I have a public service announcement from the GMs! We're tweaking the CE Attribute Scale by renaming the Supernatural and Superhuman ranks and making the boundaries of each level hopefully a bit more clear. This shouldn't require any actual changes to the sheets for most people, only switching "Supernatural" and "Superhuman" for the new terms.

Cross Effects Patch 3.1.0: The Infested Sewers

Patch Notes:
  • The Infested Sewers 5-man Dungeon and 25-man Raid are now unlocked!
  • Public Antagonist Events loom on the horizon!
  • Clusterfucks! Clusterfucks and misunderstandings everywhere!
  • Rework of the Attribute Scale:

    The scale for character attributes is now as follows, from lowest to highest: Human < Exceptional < Incredible < Fantastic < Legendary. The previous Supernatural rank is replaced with Incredible, and Superhuman is replaced with Fantastic. The descriptions of the ranks have also been updated as indicated next.

    Human - Exactly what it says on the tin. Most regular people fall into this. Runs the gamut between being out of shape and a trained or noticeably above average individual.
    Exceptional - Extremely well trained or gifted. Describes at least Olympic level ability, and up to the peak of human potential.
    Incredible - Superhumanly capable. If it isn't physically possible for a mundane person, it falls into this.
    Fantastic - Grazes the blatantly unnatural. A trait on this level allows one to perform truly phenomenal feats, and equals very potent raw aptitude.
    Legendary - The best of the best, even among monsters and heroes. It means ability that defies reason.

    A couple of other minor clarifications on this. The scale is obviously built in mind with a human standard, which is why the rank it starts at is Human. Incredible, while describing things beyond the reach of humans, does not necessarily mean the character can, say, react to bullets, although that level of Agility is the minimum required for it. There are certainly animals that would possess that ranking. And lastly, as this is something of an infamously relevant subject due to the themes of the forum itself. We all know Nasu's stats are bullshit, but for the sake of reference, most Servants will universally fit into the Fantastic range stat-wise, while those that have notably weak attributes by comparison, such as Caster class servants, fall into Incredible. Legendary is almost entirely out of their reach, except for those ridiculous Heroic Spirits that have one of a kind strength, agility, or endurance.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2015, 06:43:32 AM by YOLF »
[13:38:37] Helligator: Depends on the god, but gods by definition in Nasuverse are strong because they have divine authority.
[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1160 on: May 31, 2015, 01:35:26 PM »
I won't rework sheets until I'm done with all the urgent RL projects.

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1161 on: May 31, 2015, 02:39:54 PM »
That's fine. It's not a super high priority thing, it's a set of changes for clarification.

When/if we have time and some people don't, me and Kaze may get to editing the sheets that are simple replacement jobs just to make the transition smoother.

IMPORTANT EDIT:

Also, people, don't make this complicated just because of the Servant comment, the scale hasn't really changed. The Incredible (former Supernatural) range was slightly shortened on the upper end and slightly extended on the lower end because its intended power was made more transparent.

There should be no reason to even consider changing the stats of most characters. Just change the name of the rank for the new one. Always err on the side of keeping it the same, and if you really think otherwise, talk to a GM about it.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2015, 03:10:39 PM by YOLF »
[13:38:37] Helligator: Depends on the god, but gods by definition in Nasuverse are strong because they have divine authority.
[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1162 on: June 13, 2015, 02:03:29 AM »
> Aisha's request to Adjutor's Elementals makes them devastate a mall

you people just love giving Sarse headaches
[13:38:37] Helligator: Depends on the god, but gods by definition in Nasuverse are strong because they have divine authority.
[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1163 on: June 13, 2015, 01:35:05 PM »
Are we talking a headache in the next post from sensing something, or a headache when he sees what's left of the mall?
[8:49:50 AM] Daniel Mahan: He can still get RAEG
[8:49:52 AM] Daniel Mahan: Just better at not loosing his marbles over it.
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                                      I seeeee what you did there


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i litterally
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not penetration
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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1164 on: June 14, 2015, 01:37:48 AM »
Yes.
[13:38:37] Helligator: Depends on the god, but gods by definition in Nasuverse are strong because they have divine authority.
[13:38:48] Kat: Even the toilet god?
[13:38:56] Helligator: No one worships toilets.
[13:39:00] Helligator: Don't be a shitlord.

[04:32:08] Helligator: I can't make dragons in power armor like this

[19:50:12] francobull III: [...] why are you being all assive aggressive?

[23:32:37] Helligator: use the narrative as a means to convey an interesting story and cool conflicts with the openness you're allowed
[23:32:43] Helligator: not to CHEAT stories and conflicts

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1165 on: June 18, 2015, 04:48:47 AM »
Sooooo, I'm going to be off for the next few days because of MOVING.

I won't have access to internet and I apologize.  I should be back on line on Monday, so do try to behave.  Thanks!

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1166 on: June 24, 2015, 04:09:23 PM »
Cross Effects General Announcement: Antagonists Are Coming to Town

In about a week's time, I will be posting my antagonist event for those who wish to join, and depending on his schedule Knick's event will be hitting full swing in the near future as well. It is highly encouraged (although not mandatory) for people to free up their characters to be able to participate when the pain train pulls into the station. Bare in mind that while you don't have to participate, allowing antagonists to go about as they please may have significant consequences for the RP as a whole. The Nexus' fate is in your hands. No pressure!

On a more technical note, I will be editing all character sheets that have not yet been adjusted to reflect the new attribute scale implemented by YOLF in patch 3.1.0. I will only be switching Supernatural and Superhuman for Incredible and Fantastic respectively, so if you think that the new clarifications on the scale warrant an actual change in the attribute, PM myself or another GM to discuss it.
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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1167 on: June 24, 2015, 05:00:37 PM »
On a more technical note, I will be editing all character sheets that have not yet been adjusted to reflect the new attribute scale implemented by YOLF in patch 3.1.0. I will only be switching Supernatural and Superhuman for Incredible and Fantastic respectively, so if you think that the new clarifications on the scale warrant an actual change in the attribute, PM myself or another GM to discuss it.

Well, I think that it probably makes sense to set Rider to be all "Fantastic" stats, because otherwise we get into the "servant ranks" argument again, which YOLF specifically wanted to avoid.

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1168 on: June 24, 2015, 06:49:08 PM »
As long as it doesn't interfere too much with Operation Hunt Forest, I don't mind events.

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Re: Cross Effects 3.0 - The Third Time's the Charm? General Discussion
« Reply #1169 on: June 26, 2015, 09:56:33 AM »
Well, I think that it probably makes sense to set Rider to be all "Fantastic" stats, because otherwise we get into the "servant ranks" argument again, which YOLF specifically wanted to avoid.

I feel Rider's in that grey zone right between Incredible and Fantastic, but for the sake of ease sure, she's Fantastic.
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